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post #1846 of 2350

i thought the takstar ts 671 will be less dark than the pro80. but I was wrong.

post #1847 of 2350
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Originally Posted by bravobs View Post
 

i thought the takstar ts 671 will be less dark than the pro80. but I was wrong.

 

It's completely possible that they use the exact same drivers. The 2050 and the Pro 80 both have identical drivers, ie 53mm dia. that's the same for the 671, but they have twice as much impedance.

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It's completely possible that they use the exact same drivers. The 2050 and the Pro 80 both have identical drivers, ie 53mm dia. that's the same for the 671, but they have twice as much impedance.


i think the ts671 is actually darker and it is inferior in terms of resolution compared to pro80. in my opinion of course, and i dont find the ts671 comfortable. just an additional info.


Edited by bravobs - 4/2/14 at 11:37pm
post #1849 of 2350

They do not have to be the same just because they look the same, 2050 and Pro 80 is plausible and would be expected. 

I think the 671 shares drivers with it´s closed brother, but that is another story...

The Ohm thing, is just a matter of putting a resistor in the chain..So that will not tell us much.

AFAIK The beyer 32/250/600 ohms versions of DT880/770/990 all have the same driver..

Same family same drivers, like the Takstars.

 

My 2 cents

post #1850 of 2350
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For me it's better than the Takstar pro80 originals. Better comfort, isolation and better bass
When you say better bass do you mean more bass? Less bass? Better texture? I would like to know. Like an idiot I never tried my hm5 pads when I had my takstars. Going to pick up another pair though, I miss the clarity of those babies.
post #1851 of 2350
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When you say better bass do you mean more bass? Less bass? Better texture? I would like to know. Like an idiot I never tried my hm5 pads when I had my takstars. Going to pick up another pair though, I miss the clarity of those babies.
To me the bass with the HM5 pads seem tighter and better controlled. It sounds a bit boomier with the stock pads
post #1852 of 2350
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Originally Posted by Claus-DK View Post

They do not have to be the same just because they look the same, 2050 and Pro 80 is plausible and would be expected. 

I think the 671 shares drivers with it´s closed brother, but that is another story...

The Ohm thing, is just a matter of putting a resistor in the chain..So that will not tell us much.

AFAIK The beyer 32/250/600 ohms versions of DT880/770/990 all have the same driver..

Same family same drivers, like the Takstars.

 

My 2 cents


That's exactly what I was thinking. The drivers are pretty good quality for such a cheap HP. So its a WIN for us!
Sometimes it amazes me how much they charge for cans that are just a redesign of ones already produced.

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post #1853 of 2350
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That's exactly what I was thinking. The drivers are pretty good quality for such a cheap HP. So its a WIN for us!
Sometimes it amazes me how much they charge for cans that are just a redesign of ones already produced.

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If a headphone only costs $60, it doesn't always mean that it's cheaper than a $200 offering.  Spending more money, does not always equal a better product.  For many headphones, I'd be surprised if any of them - where 99% are made in China, had a set of drivers in them that cost more than a $1 or $2 a pair.  The cost on top of that goes into Research and Development as well as selling costs - advertising an profit.

 

In the end, though, it's pretty amazing what $40 - $60 buys today with regard to headphones.  With Sennheiser, a replacement pair of ear pads for the HD-600/650 costs $58.00 for the pair.  Some of the markups can be a bit extreme.

post #1854 of 2350
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If a headphone only costs $60, it doesn't always mean that it's cheaper than a $200 offering.  Spending more money, does not always equal a better product.  For many headphones, I'd be surprised if any of them - where 99% are made in China, had a set of drivers in them that cost more than a $1 or $2 a pair.  The cost on top of that goes into Research and Development as well as selling costs - advertising an profit.

In the end, though, it's pretty amazing what $40 - $60 buys today with regard to headphones.  With Sennheiser, a replacement pair of ear pads for the HD-600/650 costs $58.00 for the pair.  Some of the markups can be a bit extreme.
+1; Also, try looking at replacement earpads for the Beyerdynamic T5P if you want extreme. blink.gif
post #1855 of 2350
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That's exactly what I was thinking. The drivers are pretty good quality for such a cheap HP. So its a WIN for us!
Sometimes it amazes me how much they charge for cans that are just a redesign of ones already produced.

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If a headphone only costs $60, it doesn't always mean that it's cheaper than a $200 offering.  Spending more money, does not always equal a better product.  For many headphones, I'd be surprised if any of them - where 99% are made in China, had a set of drivers in them that cost more than a $1 or $2 a pair.  The cost on top of that goes into Research and Development as well as selling costs - advertising an profit.

 

In the end, though, it's pretty amazing what $40 - $60 buys today with regard to headphones.  With Sennheiser, a replacement pair of ear pads for the HD-600/650 costs $58.00 for the pair.  Some of the markups can be a bit extreme.


Indeed that is typical with all products we buy today. I just don't know how they justify charging so much for them. R&D is a big part of of any product but in the end its all about the mark up. Where I work, in the passive fire protection industry, we have an R&D team and we spend a lot of time and effort on it. But in the end of all that effort, the price that we sell our products, are calculated by the cost of manufacturing and installation. R&D in itself is an investment not a cost.

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Edited by DJScope - 4/3/14 at 3:24pm
post #1856 of 2350

What R&D ??

There has not been anything new in headphones for decades..

 

We are not building spacecrafts or Jumbojets, we are talking about headphones, 2 cups a headband a piece of wire and drivers, that is it..The last big thing was Sennheiser 414 and that was not even a new teknologi at that time..

 

A way of making a product exclusive is simply to jack up the price, if it is expensive it must be better..

I have headphones that cost a truckload of cash and I often prefer a set of Takstar/Superlux, mostly because they are not stored in boxes and put away on a shelf and are just lying everywhere in the house, I also do not need to worry about my boy using them as a playtoy for the dog, who cares ?

 

Also the fact, that if we use the best we have everyday, how do we spoil ourselves ?? there is no fun in listening to STAX if you do not listen to anything else, then it is just a headphone, they only excell if you have something to compare it to..

 

So lots of reasons to buy cheap stuff, also a good starting point for modding, there is no fun in drilling a hole in a 1000$ headphone,  it is nervewrecking, take a set of Superlux apart, a matter of seconds and if it breaks, just buy an extra set..

 

The best part is that I use the cheaper set for when I go fishing for Tench in the local pond, listening to auidobooks, while watching the float and enjoying the view, it is so wondefull, if I had a set of DX1000 on the head I had to worry about rain and be carefull all the time, the Takstars just get thrown in the bag and of we go..

post #1857 of 2350
At the end of the day I preferred the Takstar over my mad dogs 3.2 so I sold the MDs. It depends on your own ears and what you like
post #1858 of 2350
The Pro 80 have served me well so far. I do not have as much experience as you guys have with headphones. But really don't want to be tied down by headphones because they're so expensive. A "toy" is meant to be enjoyed, not cherished. And that's what I want it to be, nothing more.
My point is that no mater how much R&D goes in to headphones, they will still be headphones in the end. They should be sold at a competitive price. Selling them at an 1000% mark up is what Beats does. Do we really need to follow this trend?

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post #1859 of 2350


Takstar rig today with HE500 pleathers
post #1860 of 2350
Looks good.

Is that an amp and DAC?

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