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post #5641 of 7719
2/26/13 at 8:17pm
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Wow that is pretty impressive. I didn't think the 8As would be suitable for mastering? So you consider them very accurate then? Overall I find them very musical and they work wonders with movies and games. I'm still working on finding the perfect source though in terms of music. The N1 is the closest I've gotten but the volume is too high on the lowest settings :(....

Well, I am sure there is some boost in the bass region, but then again, there is with my KRK sub as well. What is more important than "accuracy" is having all the frequencies present, in other words, no major dips or roll-off. Everything I hear on my KRKs, I hear in the IEMs. Actually, I hear more. So, it's all in the detail.

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post #5642 of 7719
2/26/13 at 8:20pm
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Originally Posted by GarySaville View Post

Well, I am sure there is some boost in the bass region, but then again, there is with my KRK sub as well. What is more important than "accuracy" is having all the frequencies present, in other words, no major dips or roll-off. Everything I hear on my KRKs, I hear in the IEMs. Actually, I hear more. So, it's all in the detail.


I agree the detail is pretty much all there for the most part. You'll have to listen for it but heck. That is what I enjoy (listening) instead of having it forced on me. :) Also since the treble is extremely smooth and silky I find that to be very noticeable and in a pleasing, non-offensive way.


Edited by lee730 - 2/26/13 at 8:22pm
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post #5643 of 7719
2/26/13 at 8:21pm

Also, I should qualify my mastering abilities. :)

I master electronic music for clubs. I just know when a frequency will come out too harsh, or a track sound too flat on big systems. Some labels have not been happy with my mastering and have requested flat -4db versions. However, my most recent tracks, including one released on Armada records did not require further mastering.

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post #5644 of 7719
2/26/13 at 10:56pm
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Originally Posted by GarySaville View Post

Also, I should qualify my mastering abilities. :)

I master electronic music for clubs. I just know when a frequency will come out too harsh, or a track sound too flat on big systems. Some labels have not been happy with my mastering and have requested flat -4db versions. However, my most recent tracks, including one released on Armada records did not require further mastering.

 

 

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post #5645 of 7719
2/26/13 at 11:30pm
8A achieves the seemingly impossible rich musicality and accuracy and detail. biggrin.gif cant wait for mineeee
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post #5646 of 7719
2/26/13 at 11:36pm
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8A achieves the seemingly impossible rich musicality and accuracy and detail. biggrin.gif cant wait for mineeee

"seemingly impossible" is actually a damn good description of their sound.

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post #5647 of 7719
2/27/13 at 12:05am

yep i agree with gary too , i have the rokit6 which have the krk sound, and the 8.A definately sound much more revealing, im just shocked at how well the 8.A integrates the music, everything just feels proper,  I've not switched on the monitors ever since i got the 8.A's. while im too hunting for the best possible source, i just wish i had more time to listen to them, lol im beyond happy everytime i put these on. :D

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post #5648 of 7719
2/27/13 at 12:07am
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yep i agree with gary too , i have the rokit6 which have the krk sound, and the 8.A definately sound much more revealing, im just shocked at how well the 8.A integrates the music, everything just feels proper,  I've not switched on the monitors ever since i got the 8.A's. while im too hunting for the best possible source, i just wish i had more time to listen to them, lol im beyond happy everytime i put these on. :D

Ibasso DX100 is a worthy source for the 8.A wink.gif

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post #5649 of 7719
2/27/13 at 3:10am

NOOO it seems like the fit on my right monitor is off, and I think I will have to be getting a refit..... They sound so awesome when they're both in, but the right one just seems to dislodge almost instantly :( The left one fits so well I can't even tell it's there, but the Right one is almost definitely off.....

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post #5650 of 7719
2/27/13 at 3:11am

Just seen a post on facebook about a big announcement tomorrow, and now I'm wondering if I should wait a day before playing my 5.0 order :P

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post #5651 of 7719
2/27/13 at 3:16am
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Just seen a post on facebook about a big announcement tomorrow, and now I'm wondering if I should wait a day before playing my 5.0 order :P

If they did a sale on the 8.A I'll think about it
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post #5652 of 7719
2/27/13 at 4:46am
Heres to hoping its a dap!
Also does the weather and humidity effect how customs fit?
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post #5653 of 7719
2/27/13 at 5:19am
Despite having my Heir Audio 8.A for a number of days, I've only been able to give them one days proper listening so far. So I want to hold off providing an in depth review until I have had a chance to listen to them for a lot longer.
 
My initial impressions are compared to my JH16 as a reference point.
 
The Heir Audio 8.A are beautifully crafted works of art. They feel weighty and silky to the touch and remind me more of a smooth Ceramic than a plasticky acrylic. Fit seems to be almost 100% perfect, with the left ear being possibly a tiny bit loose - time will tell.
 
The Magnus 1 cable has a nice weightiness to it and the hefty right angle plug doesn't drag down on the ears. It seems to resist tangling and memory twisting. The memory loops over the ears are just right - easily pliable, but firm enough to maintain their shape.
The Y section is big enough so that it doesn't automatically tighten up under my chin, with plenty of scope for me to adjust the Y to a comfortable tightness.Compared to other cables I have used, it has practically no microphonics.
 
 
Overall the 8.A package looks and feels like a premium product, more so than the JH16
 
Sound:
Tested on an iBasso DX100, v1.3.7, Mid Gain, 16bit FLAC, 8.A usage less than 24hrs.
 
The volume level on the iBasso DX100 has to be set a lot higher than with the JH16. 
In a quiet environment the volume level is set to 145 for the JH16 and 162 for the 8.A. 
The isolation of the 8.A is superior to the JH16 - probably because of the acrylic being used seems denser.
 
The difference between the 8.A and the JH16 are instantly noticeable.
The 8.A have an obviously smoother sound, less in your face, whereas the JH16 throw all the micro details at you. The 8.A require you to listen more attentively for them. This makes the 8.A more forgiving of poorer recordings, as blemishes in the recordings are less noticeable. 
 
The mids and bass seem weightier and fuller sounding than the JH16 but with less defined sharp edges to the notes.
Bass guitars like in the track "Radiohead - Lucky" resonate beautifully deep and rich and are sublimely addictive...so much so, I found myself repeating the track again and again
 
The sub bass in "Massive Attack - Angel" reverberates around your skull without the slightest hint of distortion or boominess....like someone has strapped a sub woofer to your ears. 
Bass is definitely one of 8.A's forte, although I am not sure the thump is quite as hard as the JH16 in the DEEP sub bass region...but there probably is not much in it.
 
Considering the 8.A have 4 high frequency drivers, I was expecting a much brighter sound. Where the higher frequency drivers seem to come into their own is in eliminating any sibilance or over brightness.
Where the ultra revealing JH16 can become almost painful at times, the same highs are smoothed out in the 8.A.
The reach is there but the not the harshness. 
The sound stage of the 8.A also seems to be noticeably wider and deeper than the JH16 - instruments seem to be more distinctly placed.
 
The one initial downside thought I have had is, that the vocals seem recessed or set further back than the JH16. 
At times this seems to make vocals sound slightly lost in the surrounding instruments. If the singer isn't fully enunciating the words, they can sometimes be difficult to understand.
 
Overall, I like the "smoothness" of the 8.A 
 
When listening to the 8.A, the main adjective that comes to my mind is "Analogue" 
 
 
Which do I prefer JH16 or 8.A - at this stage I honestly don't know...it is too early to tell....do I need to prefer one??
 
Once I get a lot more hours on the 8.A to allow for any burn in and acclimatization, I will start a full A\B review
 
If these are your first top tier CIEMs, you will be very, very happy with the results.
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post #5654 of 7719
2/27/13 at 5:30am
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Originally Posted by kryten123 View Post

Despite having my Heir Audio 8.A for a number of days, I've only been able to give them one days proper listening so far. So I want to hold off providing an in depth review until I have had a chance to listen to them for a lot longer.
 
My initial impressions are compared to my JH16 as a reference point.
 
The Heir Audio 8.A are beautifully crafted works of art. They feel weighty and silky to the touch and remind me more of a smooth Ceramic than a plasticky acrylic. Fit seems to be almost 100% perfect, with the left ear being possibly a tiny bit loose - time will tell.
 
The Magnus 1 cable has a nice weightiness to it and the hefty right angle plug doesn't drag down on the ears. It seems to resist tangling and memory twisting. The memory loops over the ears are just right - easily pliable, but firm enough to maintain their shape.
The Y section is big enough so that it doesn't automatically tighten up under my chin, with plenty of scope for me to adjust the Y to a comfortable tightness.Compared to other cables I have used, it has practically no microphonics.
 
 
Overall the 8.A package looks and feels like a premium product, more so than the JH16
 
Sound:
Tested on an iBasso DX100, v1.3.7, Mid Gain, 16bit FLAC, 8.A usage less than 24hrs.
 
The volume level on the iBasso DX100 has to be set a lot higher than with the JH16. 
In a quiet environment the volume level is set to 145 for the JH16 and 162 for the 8.A. 
The isolation of the 8.A is superior to the JH16 - probably because of the acrylic being used seems denser.
 
The difference between the 8.A and the JH16 are instantly noticeable.
The 8.A have an obviously smoother sound, less in your face, whereas the JH16 throw all the micro details at you. The 8.A require you to listen more attentively for them. This makes the 8.A more forgiving of poorer recordings, as blemishes in the recordings are less noticeable. 
 
The mids and bass seem weightier and fuller sounding than the JH16 but with less defined sharp edges to the notes.
Bass guitars like in the track "Radiohead - Lucky" resonate beautifully deep and rich and are sublimely addictive...so much so, I found myself repeating the track again and again
 
The sub bass in "Massive Attack - Angel" reverberates around your skull without the slightest hint of distortion or boominess....like someone has strapped a sub woofer to your ears. 
Bass is definitely one of 8.A's forte, although I am not sure the thump is quite as hard as the JH16 in the DEEP sub bass region...but there probably is not much in it.
 
Considering the 8.A have 4 high frequency drivers, I was expecting a much brighter sound. Where the higher frequency drivers seem to come into their own is in eliminating any sibilance or over brightness.
Where the ultra revealing JH16 can become almost painful at times, the same highs are smoothed out in the 8.A.
The reach is there but the not the harshness. 
The sound stage of the 8.A also seems to be noticeably wider and deeper than the JH16 - instruments seem to be more distinctly placed.
 
The one initial downside thought I have had is, that the vocals seem recessed or set further back than the JH16. 
At times this seems to make vocals sound slightly lost in the surrounding instruments. If the singer isn't fully enunciating the words, they can sometimes be difficult to understand.
 
Overall, I like the "smoothness" of the 8.A 
 
When listening to the 8.A, the main adjective that comes to my mind is "Analogue" 
 
 
Which do I prefer JH16 or 8.A - at this stage I honestly don't know...it is too early to tell....do I need to prefer one??
 
Once I get a lot more hours on the 8.A to allow for any burn in and acclimatization, I will start a full A\B review
 
If these are your first top tier CIEMs, you will be very, very happy with the results.

 

Very nice and accurate review, Thank you!

 

I concur mostly with you. The mids/vocals does come to the forefront a little more with a slightly longer burn in...50 hours+


Edited by spkrs01 - 2/27/13 at 5:36am
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post #5655 of 7719
2/27/13 at 5:41am
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Very nice and accurate review, Thank you!

 

I concur mostly with you. The mids/vocals does come to the forefront a little more with a slightly longer burn in...50 hours+

Hi, I am curious - which parts don't you concur with?

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