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Nov 20, 2011 at 9:46 PM Post #1,666 of 11,521
Who needs a 360 get the 458! Or better yet the Aventador!
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Nov 20, 2011 at 10:49 PM Post #1,667 of 11,521
What do you do for a living that you can afford to spend upwards of $20k on headphone equipment alone?
 
Nov 20, 2011 at 11:05 PM Post #1,668 of 11,521
 
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dagothur said:
What do you do for a living that you can afford to spend upwards of $20k on headphone equipment alone?
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Flips stolen audio gear.  
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Nov 20, 2011 at 11:14 PM Post #1,669 of 11,521
Nov 21, 2011 at 12:03 AM Post #1,671 of 11,521
googleli said:
I just spent the whole of Sunday afternoon in Mongkok (people in Hong Kong will know where that is) auditioning the LCD3 with "cheaper" amps and DACs. As I said, I think my CLAS-PB2-SR71B and CLAS-SR71A combos no longer work for LCD3 IMO. They still sound good, but IMO are not able to express the LCD3 50% of its potential. If I could rate my Esoteric K-01 and Leben with the LCD2 as 100% (as a reference point only), the LCD2 on my portable rig probably still had 75%.  Neither do I think one must use something like my home gear, namely Esoteric K-01 and Leben, to make the LCD3 sound its best - quite unlike the SR009 where the improvement is virtually infinite, the better source and amp you feed  the SR009, it just sounds so much better with no limit. Simply put, in my experience the diminishing return effect of source and amps (in relation to headphones) kicks in  much later in the SR009 than the LCD2, so I think the right gear for the LCD3 must be somewhere in between.
 
And that's the reason I went to try out a lot of gear today for the LCD3. The thing good for Head-fiers in Hong Kong is that there are a few shops within three blocks where you can try virtually any amp or DAC mentioned on Head-fi, except the more expensive ones like the Liquid Fire. When I took out the LCD3 from my bag every time the one who is selling amps to me was like "WOW" or  "You got the 3 already?", except the Audeze distributor in Hong Kong who either didn't seem to care or wasn't aware it was a 3 at all.
 
Anyway - I have some interesting findings and I do think I have found the balanced point for price and performance for the LCD3. I was thinking about getting the Antelope Zodiac Gold and the Cavalli Liquid Fire for my office LCD3 rig. But after auditioning today I think I have found something good enough to express the LCD3 nearly to its best, but still relatively cheap. In particular there are two units which I want to mention which are one-box solutions (DAC+amp) which IMO are working quite well with the LCD3.
 
At the distributor, I also tried out the ALO copper chainmail and silver+copper chainmail cables for the LCD2 as well and was able to compare them side by side with my old Norse cable. 
 
I did not get myself anything today, except a dust cover for my SR009 - but I think it will take me probably just one more audition of the two selected units to decide. Although I did not purchase anything (except the Stax dust cover), I think it is a Sunday afternoon well spent and a very satisfying experience. 
 
I will post some impressions of what I heard after dinner.
 
 
 
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This is good news to my wallet! I had already decided that I am done after the SR71-B and balanced cable arrive and this now confirms it for me. I won't be in the position for a home Amp until my move is complete sometime next year so the amps I have are my only choice at present.
 
Nov 21, 2011 at 12:30 AM Post #1,672 of 11,521
currawong said:
My LCD-2s seem to be quite a bit stronger in the upper mids and treble, so the LCD-3s aren't sounding that radically different to me.  In the picture below, if you ignore the original LCD-2 graph in yellow, the differences (from 3k to 6k) between my LCD-2s and 3s could be down to the position when measured IMO.
 
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Hmm, this really confuses me. I was looking at your graph and then pulled mine out of the draw to compare. I had one of the failed driver models and Audeze replaced them with what I have now.

To be clear on this mine were from the batch just before the REV2's, the few that went through much greater testing than the originals. I felt my replacement pair were a little more energetic and commented so and then almost immediately the rev2's came out. I got in touch with Alex and he told me my pair were not REV2's but looking at my graph it looks like I have a combination of all three!

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My pair seem to echo the rev2 and LCD 3 more than what they which is REV1

Can someone who is better at reading these things comment on mine and give me their thoughts. I love the sound of mine and have no intention of ever selling them, I wonder if the few other folks who got this batch of much tighter QC units that came after the failed driver batch and before the REV2'S could give their thoughts as well.

Perhaps I am lucky and have the best of all worlds in the various models!!
 
Nov 21, 2011 at 12:46 AM Post #1,674 of 11,521
purrin said:
No way to tell with that graph. They are too smoothed. The rev1s will have a resonance peak between 6k and 9k. The rev2 will have a higher peak.
 
This explains why: http://www.head-fi.org/t/580283/lcd3-measurements/90#post_7903491
 
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Thanks for that purrin, I think I understand but please treat me like the stupidest person in the class when it comes to graphs and such (should have paid more attention in school rather than sneaking peeks at Walden when I should have been paying attention to science!!
 
Nov 21, 2011 at 1:09 AM Post #1,675 of 11,521
Basically what I'm saying is that the Audeze supplied graphs are smoothed so that they don't reveal a lot of wrinkles. If the Audeze graphs did not have any smoothing applied, in other words if they were brutally honest, then you would see something akin to the differences below. rev1 is top. rev2 is bottom.
 

 
Nov 21, 2011 at 1:31 AM Post #1,677 of 11,521
Nov 21, 2011 at 9:00 AM Post #1,680 of 11,521
Looking for a man's messenger bag lately. The LCD3's earpad makes me want to look for a quality bag. I don't want to buy brands such as LV or Gucci. Probably more value in the brand name than quality. Longchamp seems to be good. Any other suggestions?
 
Anyway, back to the LCD3. I think it's earpad is indeed very good and relieves me from the LCD2 clamp. Still not as comfortable as the 009 or the ED10 IMO, but a considerable step up from the LCD2. I am trying not to comment on LCD2's comfort again as I was banned for a week last time... But you know what I mean 
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