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post #571 of 749

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Yep the 009 is ruthlessly revealing of poor recordings and DAC's that can be overblown and mechanical sounding

 

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Originally Posted by johnwmclean View Post
 

Don’t forget the source... I think it’s completely relevant for complete synergy.

I’m one those weird people that are loving the BHSE and 009.

Or maybe my Buffalo SE DAC is a good match, who knows...

post #572 of 749
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Originally Posted by complin View Post
 
Given the issues Audeze have had over the years with planar driver reliability and consistency, perhaps there are similar issues going on here ?

 

It's certainly possible. A friend of mine who has heard three other Abyss headphones thinks I may have gotten a cherry picked one.

 

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Originally Posted by johnwmclean View Post
 

Don’t forget the source... I think it’s completely relevant for complete synergy.

I’m one those weird people that are loving the BHSE and 009.

Or maybe my Buffalo SE DAC is a good match, who knows...

 

DIY T2 + SR009 was by far the pickiest combo ever in terms of source, meaning DAC / recordings.

post #573 of 749
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Originally Posted by purrin View Post

It's certainly possible. A friend of mine who has heard three other Abyss headphones thinks I may have gotten a cherry picked one.


DIY T2 + SR009 was by far the pickiest combo ever in terms of source, meaning DAC / recordings.
Not to get too OT but I'm surprised you didn't mention about the soundstage & presence. I think the main factor that grabbed me about the Abyss (at least with the LAu combo, didn't try other amps), was that the presence was huge. And this was of my AK120 as a source since it was at a show before it was open to the public.

To me the biggest difference been the Stax setup & the Abyss/LAu combo (aside from price & comfort) is the Abyss combo was much more akin to a speaker sound in a small to modest listening room whereas Stax still has the headphone sound to my ears at least.

Unfortunately for me it's also a significant jump up in investment from the Stax.
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I have huge a tendency to forget (it's not huge priority for me and thus sometimes I don't notice it) the headstage aspects of headphones because my reference is speakers, which of course is on another plane of existence when it comes to soundstage and localisation. I would agree that the Abyss have the ability to present depth and define a strong "sense of space". HD800 is better at depth, but with a weaker sense of space. 009 is wide, expansive, but lacked depth.
 
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Unfortunately for me it's also a significant jump up in investment from the Stax.

 

Abyss + Vali ($199). Cheaper than any 009 rig (the SRM323 doesn't cut it for the 009). :biggrin:


Edited by purrin - 12/1/13 at 6:09pm
post #575 of 749

The Abyss and 009 are from different sonic worlds. They are just different takes on reality.

The 009 is a much more extreme, super focused listening experience, like when I put on eyeglasses because I am somewhat nearsighted.

The Abyss has silkier edges, is more relaxed, and very natural, like my unaided eyesight, not as sharp as with glasses but easier to take, and still all there for me to experience.

post #576 of 749
How heavy are the Abyss? Are they heavy like the Lcd2 if so they can send them to the Abyss for all i care. I can live with the weight of the 009's but the next model I hope Stax goes back to a lighter design like the 007's.
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Originally Posted by jaycalgary View Post

How heavy are the Abyss? Are they heavy like the Lcd2 if so they can send them to the Abyss for all i care. I can live with the weight of the 009's but the next model I hope Stax goes back to a lighter design like the 007's.

 

660g (not including the cable) according to the site for the abyss. For comparison the 009 is 454g, and the LCD-3 is 548g (both not including the cable).

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It's a matter of taste / sonic priorities. I had many months of listening sessions with the DIY T2 + (insert whatever electrostatic headphone here) and I prefer the Abyss, even from the lowly Vali. Really comparing apples and oranges though.

 

I believe the Eric65 has also heard the SR009 from the Electra, which is no slouch compared to the BHSE - although quite a different presentation.

 

I agree with you on this.  Thanks to you, I now own the fabulous sounding Stax DIY T2.  I absolutely adore the sound of my HE90 & SR009 out of this magnificence amplifier.  The T2 is my end-game amplifier and even edge out my BHSE in several aspects.

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Yes the original Stax T2 and its DIY incarnation are the best stat amplifiers I have ever heard, just effortless. They really transform the 007 MK1's too !  

 

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Originally Posted by purk View Post
 

 

I agree with you on this.  Thanks to you, I now own the fabulous sounding Stax DIY T2.  I absolutely adore the sound of my HE90 & SR009 out of this magnificence amplifier.  The T2 is my end-game amplifier and even edge out my BHSE in several aspects.

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Originally Posted by loligagger View Post
 

 

660g (not including the cable) according to the site for the abyss. For comparison the 009 is 454g, and the LCD-3 is 548g (both not including the cable).

 

Just curious where you found the 009 weight without cable (not at all doubting the accuracy - 1lb sounds about right)?

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The 009 specs include the weight, both with and without the cable. 

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It must be in the actual specs stax sends out as its on both Woo's website and wikiphonia.  If you look up the phrase "Stax 009 454g" on google, there are also a number of reviews that state the weight as 596g, 454 without cables.  Guess Stax put that out there then.

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Thanks. The cable seemed heavier to me for some reason (like not being a scale, perhaps). In any case the Stax cables are sufficiently weighty that one is well advised to "assist" the cable strain reliefs by keeping a hand on the cable so as to prevent it from dropping.

Edit: the info is also in the Stax literature on their website. Didn't recall seeing it there previously. Must learn to check before asking questions.
Edited by georgep - 12/2/13 at 7:38am
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Originally Posted by purrin View Post
 

I believe Tyll's unit was fubar or something and his issue was may have been different than mine. He heard the unit I had on hand at the LA Meet and said "WTF man" (in reference to his unit sounding very different.)

 

Yep. I do think the unit I got was not as good as the one I heard in LA. I did remove the outer grill, and the diaphragm was significantly wrinkled around the edges.  I think it was an early unit and had been around to a number of reviewers before me. Joe said he'd send me another to measure if I'd like, I'll take him up on it someday soon.

post #585 of 749
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Originally Posted by jaycalgary View Post

How heavy are the Abyss? Are they heavy like the Lcd2 if so they can send them to the Abyss for all i care. I can live with the weight of the 009's but the next model I hope Stax goes back to a lighter design like the 007's.

If you are sensitive to headphone weight get a pair of Grado GS1000i phones. I love mine and I use them often. See the grado threads. Most comfy phones ever IMO and I love the sound and

easily listen for hours if I want to.

The Abyss are subjectively a bit lighter than the Audezes,

but just a bit, so I would say it's a draw with LCDs in terms of weight.


Edited by rgs9200m - 12/2/13 at 9:38am
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