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Jun 26, 2014 at 8:17 AM Post #931 of 1,352
Ive already taken the felt from in front of drivers out. Slightly more controlled bass and less recessed mid. Now to put some damping in the cups
 
Jun 26, 2014 at 9:17 AM Post #932 of 1,352
@Koolpep
 
Interesting there is the treble filter. But I don't want to get too hyped. For me HD681 has right amount of bass. I would like hear how is the treble compared to HD681. 
 
Jul 1, 2014 at 8:22 AM Post #933 of 1,352
Hey guys, just want to butt in here. I just got my 2nd pair of Luxes. The ever so elusive (at least where I come from) HD 662. My previous pair of cans are the 681 Evo which are using Velour pads. I got the 662 cause it is closed and is known for it's bass. For now though, it really sounds like the open 681 Evo have a lot more bass than the closed 662. Not sure if burn in might have something to do with it. Right now the highs on the 662 really causes a lot of fatigue. Again it might be the burn in or maybe the velour pads on the 681 vs leather on 662. I'm running them both on a Fiio E10 with bass boost and 681 evo wins in the bass category.
 
I don't want to get into sound stage or "clarity" since one is closed and the other is open, but looking (listening?) at just the bass alone which the closed cans should win at disappoints me.
 
Any ideas why 662 bass seems lacking compared to 681 evo?
 
Jul 1, 2014 at 8:27 AM Post #934 of 1,352
  Hey guys, just want to butt in here. I just got my 2nd pair of Luxes. The ever so elusive (at least where I come from) HD 662. My previous pair of cans are the 681 Evo which are using Velour pads. I got the 662 cause it is closed and is known for it's bass. For now though, it really sounds like the open 681 Evo have a lot more bass than the closed 662. Not sure if burn in might have something to do with it. Right now the highs on the 662 really causes a lot of fatigue. Again it might be the burn in or maybe the velour pads on the 681 vs leather on 662. I'm running them both on a Fiio E10 with bass boost and 681 evo wins in the bass category.
 
I don't want to get into sound stage or "clarity" since one is closed and the other is open, but looking (listening?) at just the bass alone which the closed cans should win at disappoints me.
 
Any ideas why 662 bass seems lacking compared to 681 evo?

Maybe because it's not the 668B.
 
Jul 1, 2014 at 9:01 AM Post #936 of 1,352
   
Tried the 668B, those are probably the least bass-heavy luxes among the ones I've tried. They are the clearest though so I imagine classical and instrumentals would sound awesome with them.

I was wondering if you ever tried burning in the 668B's?  So iyo which is the bass heaviest? 
 
Jul 1, 2014 at 9:14 AM Post #937 of 1,352
  I was wondering if you ever tried burning in the 668B's?  So iyo which is the bass heaviest? 

 
668B's aren't bass heavy at all. For now it seems like the 681 Evos are the most bass heavy. But like I said it could be because the 662's need time to burn in. Also the velour on the 681 vs the pleather on the 662's. I'll be using the 662's for a couple of days and see if there is a difference. For now the 681 Evos really sound far better in all aspects except noise isolation due to it being open.
 
Jul 1, 2014 at 9:59 AM Post #938 of 1,352
   
668B's aren't bass heavy at all. For now it seems like the 681 Evos are the most bass heavy. But like I said it could be because the 662's need time to burn in. Also the velour on the 681 vs the pleather on the 662's. I'll be using the 662's for a couple of days and see if there is a difference. For now the 681 Evos really sound far better in all aspects except noise isolation due to it being open.

Thanks, now I have to get them. The 668B is good for most types of music but not everything...
 
Jul 1, 2014 at 10:04 AM Post #939 of 1,352
668Bs are great. I don't think there are many head phones out there that can match the "neutrality" of the 668Bs. Due to being neutral though, I find them pretty boring. I like good high's and low's more than a more neutral tone. It's just a personal preference though.
 
Now I need to get a decent DAC/Amp for my 662s. Still leaning on Fiio because I don't have the cash for much else. :)
 
Jul 1, 2014 at 5:05 PM Post #940 of 1,352
I am going to pick HD662F or B from thomann. Which has better bass response? I readed F model has anemic bass.. So can it be? Superlux claims it have similar sound curve to SHR440 and B model has similar to SHR840. I already own HD681 and it has natural and deep punchy bass. Little restrained low frequencies. 
 

 
Jul 1, 2014 at 5:25 PM Post #941 of 1,352
  668Bs are great. I don't think there are many head phones out there that can match the "neutrality" of the 668Bs. Due to being neutral though, I find them pretty boring. I like good high's and low's more than a more neutral tone. It's just a personal preference though.
 
Now I need to get a decent DAC/Amp for my 662s. Still leaning on Fiio because I don't have the cash for much else. :)

There is the Topping NX1 that a friend descibes it better than his Filo 11.  You can pick one up for under $40
 
Jul 2, 2014 at 9:51 AM Post #942 of 1,352
There is the Topping NX1 that a friend descibes it better than his Filo 11.  You can pick one up for under $40
looks interesting... Although I already have an e11. Besides, according to third party measurements, the e11 puts out 13 more mw into 32 ohms... 113mW. Far less than what FiiO stated, but a little more than NX1... Still... 100 hour battery life looks interesting... Wish I would have gotten the e12 or O2 instead of the e11 though. I asked for it on my birthday back before I knew about audio because I heard it made headphones louder, and got it... Here I am. And I could have asked for an E12, E17 or O2 instead, but since I only knew about the e11 I got that... :frowning2: but anyways, how are these? http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003GU16J0/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1404308722&sr=8-1&pi=SL75 the topping NX1 looks like a plausible alternative to FiiO if not better.
 
Jul 2, 2014 at 10:08 AM Post #943 of 1,352
looks interesting... Although I already have an e11. Besides, according to third party measurements, the e11 puts out 13 more mw into 32 ohms... 113mW. Far less than what FiiO stated, but a little more than NX1... Still... 100 hour battery life looks interesting... Wish I would have gotten the e12 or O2 instead of the e11 though. I asked for it on my birthday back before I knew about audio because I heard it made headphones louder, and got it... Here I am. And I could have asked for an E12, E17 or O2 instead, but since I only knew about the e11 I got that...
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but anyways, how are these? http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003GU16J0/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1404308722&sr=8-1&pi=SL75 the topping NX1 looks like a plausible alternative to FiiO if not better

When I go to the link it's for HD669... I have the 668B and am happy with them although I am curious now about the 681 Evos.
 
Jul 2, 2014 at 10:59 AM Post #944 of 1,352
When I go to the link it's for HD669... I have the 668B and am happy with them although I am curious now about the 681 Evos.
yeah, I was asking how the hd669's are... Sorry for any confusion with my talk about amps.
 
Jul 2, 2014 at 5:17 PM Post #945 of 1,352
looks interesting... Although I already have an e11. Besides, according to third party measurements, the e11 puts out 13 more mw into 32 ohms... 113mW. Far less than what FiiO stated, but a little more than NX1... Still... 100 hour battery life looks interesting... Wish I would have gotten the e12 or O2 instead of the e11 though. I asked for it on my birthday back before I knew about audio because I heard it made headphones louder, and got it... Here I am. And I could have asked for an E12, E17 or O2 instead, but since I only knew about the e11 I got that... :frowning2: but anyways, how are these? http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003GU16J0/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1404308722&sr=8-1&pi=SL75 the topping NX1 looks like a plausible alternative to FiiO if not better.


I did an AB comparison with the NX1 and the E11 and the NX1 is much better in every aspect. Even if on paper the E11 is more powerful, the NX1 is louder and keeps its power all through the volume ranges. The E11 has a dark signature and bloated bass, the NX1 is flat, transparent and has more controlled bass. NX1 has a wider and deeper sound stage and a much higher high frequency extension. Go check out the reviews in the Topping NX1 thread.
 

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