lenroot77 said:

So I've heard! Hahah

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I hate you

which headphone would be the absolute best for fps games in terms of positional accuracy?
 
which headphones would also be good for music/movies as well as for fps games?
 
do i need soundcard, dac/amp or both?
 
thanks!

stinkytofus said:

which headphone would be the absolute best for fps games in terms of positional accuracy?

which headphones would also be good for music/movies as well as for fps games?

do i need soundcard, dac/amp or both?

thanks!

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Have you read page 1 of this thread?

Please do. After you read most of the reviews of the different headphones MLE has reviewed, come back and gives us names of some headphones that peek your interest as well as telling us what is your budget. Also if you need close or open back headphones, detachable cable, etc.

Enjoy!

CAL2 > CAL

sam21 said:

CAL2 > CAL

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How so? Lol

Still cant beat the price/performance ratio, regardless if the CAL2 was to be better.

rudyae86 said:

Have you read page 1 of this thread?

Please do. After you read most of the reviews of the different headphones MLE has reviewed, come back and gives us names of some headphones that peek your interest as well as telling us what is your budget. Also if you need close or open back headphones, detachable cable, etc.

Enjoy!

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AT ath-ad700, beyer dt990, akg k701/2 interests me as it is highly rated by MLE and the reviews on amazon are 4.5+
 
also considering sennheiser 600's

mad lust envy said:

  No I haven't. I have only posted the ones I have directly tested enough to make a considerable assessment. I did put some bad ones in there for reference.
 
Here's good rule of thumb: If a headphone has a spacious soundstage and generally balanced sound signature, it will more than likely perform quite well with Dolby Headphone.
 
Dolby Headphone can make even some craptastic headphones sound acceptable for gaming.
 
The reason soundstage is GOOD, is because it allows the sound to have some depth, making it a lot easier for gamers to differentiate between front and rear sounds, which is a MAJOR reason why anyone should even go into headphone gaming.

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mad lust envy said:

  I don't see any real benefit of using a separate Dolby Headphone amp over your soundcard. o_O I forgot to mention that I'm a console gamer, so YMMV. XD

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1. i see that you reviewed the dt770 (closed) and highly regard them, but are they better than ad700, dt990, and akg k701/2 for fps? which of these would u recommend as #1 for fps games hands down? since the latter three are all open and open headphones are generally better for fps (from what i've been reading), if they are good for music/movies on the pc, that would be a big plus as well
 
2. does it make sense the dac/amps are connected to the sound card and then connect the dac/amp to the headphones? can i do surround sound that way? (if i get a soundcard with DH/THX capabilities)? or do i just pick a sound card or dac/amp?
 
3. without a sound card, if i want surround sound, is it possible with an external amp/dac connected to headphones and used with razer surround software? 
 
4. for FPS games positional accuracy, is it accurate without surround sound ? is stereo just as accurate/more accurate/good enough?
 
5. which soundcard do you recommend?
 
6. if i get a dac/amp with my headphones, does that mean i can connect to ps4, ps4 neo, xbox one no problem? or there is roadblocks? or do i have to get an mixamp?
 
7. which dac/amp do you recommend? jds labs dac/amp vs. fiio e vs. magni/modi vs etc..
 
8. i also see that (on amazon) audio technica ath-ad900 is rated highly against ad700, what you think of the ad900 ?
 
thanks !

stinkytofus said:

AT ath-ad700, beyer dt990, akg k701/2 interests me as it is highly rated by MLE and the reviews on amazon are 4.5+

also considering sennheiser 600's

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Im guessing you dont have a budget?
If thats the case then ad700 would be a good choic for fps gaming, if you do competitive gaming. K701/702 would be the next choice but will require an amp. DT990 could be a good choice for an all arounder headphone, both for gaming and music but also requires an amp. HD600 is also a good headphone for music and gaming and also requires an amp to power them adequately.

But I still think you lack more information and probably dont know what this thread really is about.

I do invite you to ask more questions and to know that this isnt just your typical forums of just asking what is the best headphone because the answer is...there is no best headphone (well maybe the HD800 and HD800s).

But you need to give yourself time to read all of page 1 to get an understanding about what we do with our headphones as well as the lingo or qords we use to describe the "sound" of different headphones.

Most of us here use our headphones with virtual surround and get a more immersive experience while still retaining great sound quality that has great pin point directional accuracy..

EDIT: I see you posted more serious questions lol good.

And we posted at the same time.

rudyae86 said:

Im guessing you dont have a budget?
If thats the case then ad700 would be a good choic for fps gaming, if you do competitive gaming. K701/702 would be the next choice but will require an amp. DT990 could be a good choice for an all arounder headphone, both for gaming and music but also requires an amp. HD600 is also a good headphone for music and gaming and also requires an amp to power them adequately.

But I still think you lack more information and probably dont know what this thread really is about.

I do invite you to ask more questions and to know that this isnt just your typical forums of just asking what is the best headphone because the answer is...there is no best headphone (well maybe the HD800 and HD800s).

But you need to give yourself time to read all of page 1 to get an understanding about what we do with our headphones as well as the lingo or qords we use to describe the "sound" of different headphones.

Most of us here use our headphones with virtual surround and get a more immersive experience while still retaining great sound quality that has great pin point directional accuracy..

EDIT: I see you posted more serious questions lol good.

And we posted at the same time.

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yes, i want to know more, i want a quality setup that will last, my last headset didn't even break 1 year mark (sound blaster recon 3d omega wireless headset with the external dac/amp), so gaming headsets.. well most of them i will steer clear of as many of them on amazon have tendency to break easily, now im looking for a setup that will be excellent for fps and hopefully music/movies as well, since we dont just play games all day and i dont wish to own multiple headphones to do different things, trying to keep it all under $800 ($400 for phones, $400 for dac/amp and/or sound card), over splurging isn't good either in my opinion, does not justify the cost for minor improvements that i probably cant even tell lol

stinkytofus said:

yes, i want to know more, i want a quality setup that will last, my last headset didn't even break 1 year mark (sound blaster recon 3d omega wireless headset with the external dac/amp), so gaming headsets.. well most of them i will steer clear of as many of them on amazon have tendency to break easily, now im looking for a setup that will be excellent for fps and hopefully music/movies as well, since we dont just play games all day and i dont wish to own multiple headphones to do different things, trying to keep it all under $800 ($400 for phones, $400 for dac/amp and/or sound card), over splurging isn't good either in my opinion, does not justify the cost for minor improvements that i probably cant even tell lol

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Well you have your set up right in front of you! Lol

You ha e a Recon3D and you can use it with any headphone and not just the Omega headset.

The Recon3D doesnt have a powerful internal amp and has a decent DAC. Headphones that are around 50ohm will work well with the Recon3D.

Such headphones that work well would be AD700, Fidelio X2, HD598,CAL.

You dont need an extra amp for those headphones since the Recon3D has enough juice to drive them.

Your Recon3D can do VSS for consoles and PC so you are good to go...just set it up right for whatever console you or PC, raise up THX up to 100% and disable the rest of its settings like digitizer, bass, etc. Only thing you want enabled is THX and set the slider to 100%.

If you plan on buying the DT990 or zaKG K701/702, buy an amp to drive them since they require more power.

rudyae86 said:

https://youtu.be/FZ60cgvrRtA

This a link to an old video from earlier this year.
Didnt know they were making a VR headset in which I think it gives a hint wear audio, especially in gaming, will be heading to.
Im intrigued as to how this VR will work, which requires using your phone but Im more interested in their audio.
I dont think anyone in here has mentioned about this (creative labs specifically).

What do you guys think?

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I also hadn't heard they were making a Google-cardboard esque VR headset... I tried out a fundamentally similar one at Best Buy (the Samsung VR), and I was totally blown away at how accurate the phone's gyroscope and accelerometer kept up with my head movements, felt very 1:1. The only thing Creative mentioned about audio during the VR segment was that they' use Bluetooth... That makes sense since the phone source was inside the sandwich box, but also carries an interesting implication about Creative trying to do some software programming/no-clip camera free viewing?

stinkytofus said:

yes, i want to know more, i want a quality setup that will last, my last headset didn't even break 1 year mark (sound blaster recon 3d omega wireless headset with the external dac/amp), so gaming headsets.. well most of them i will steer clear of as many of them on amazon have tendency to break easily, now im looking for a setup that will be excellent for fps and hopefully music/movies as well, since we dont just play games all day and i dont wish to own multiple headphones to do different things, trying to keep it all under $800 ($400 for phones, $400 for dac/amp and/or sound card), over splurging isn't good either in my opinion, does not justify the cost for minor improvements that i probably cant even tell lol

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I never tried the omega wireless headset, but the Recon3D USB unit was the first surround DSP that really worked for me. Just so you know, that black and blue USB unit serves as both a DSP (digital signal processor, for headphone surround), DAC (Digital to Analog Converter), and Amplifier. The amplifier was great for my Audio Technical AD700, probably would be good for the AD900 too, but you'll want a desktop-class amplifier for the Beyers and AKGs you mentioned. You can just plug a dedicated amp into the headphone jack of the Recon3D, and it will do pretty well. I owned two Recon3D's over like... 5 or six years? Pretty good device, but I don't have one right now. The Turtle Beach DSS2 has less noise output though, and I like it's surround processing pretty well (if you already have the Recon, just use that). Surround will be much more accurate than stereo (you should know, since you can turn it off and on with the button on the left, I think).

And, um, the HD800 really is the best headphone for gaming I've tried so far. I've heard other great musical (and expensive) summit-fi headphones that I really liked (and I badly wanted a MrSpeakers Ether), but the HD800 is tops for all things that matter for gaming: maximum reference imaging/positioning, untethered soundstage reach/distance, crazy good detail and separation (where different sounds don't bleed together), and the closest headphones I've ever had to come to almost forgetting I was wearing them. Very satisfying, very expensive, not for the new-to-the-hobby.

For someone starting/trying out audiophile headphones, my top recommendations are the AKG K612 and K7xx, and for a closed headphone I'm surprisingly enjoying Creative's H7. Yeah, I know. A gaming headset, closed with a mic port and everything we usually shy from, not to mention it's the same brand you just saw die on you, but the $129 price is quite good for what you get in a closed headphone. Because we were talking about the CAL!2, I fished mine out of the closet, and while that is on my head right now and that too sounds pretty good, I miss the H7 because the earpads are FAR more comfortable. I... like the H7. But! If you don't need closed, and can get a desktop-class amp, the AKGs are still going to win the day and win your mind/gaming.

Need advice from the Gamers
 
Is ath-ad700x really that good for positioning in first person shooter?
 
I have the x2 as my main gaming headphone and will have the shp9500 soon, how does the ad700x compare to them? is it worth the upgrade, or is it a down grade?

you can EQ the bass down if you want less masking but I can't tell you about AD700x vs. X2 positioning at similar FR. MLE can.
 
Why did you buy the SHP9500? 
 
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stinkytofus said:

  which headphone would be the absolute best for fps games in terms of positional accuracy?
 
which headphones would also be good for music/movies as well as for fps games?
 
do i need soundcard, dac/amp or both?
 
thanks!

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HD 800. There is no other. I tried them all. No headphone does frontal projection, imaging, soundstage better. Then there's the attack which gives high "physicality/tactility" with strings, drums etc...and then you got the fast decay. Music, gaming, movies. It's all right there. The more people sell their multiple mid-fi headphones the easier they can buy a HD800 with a deal or used in great condition.
 
I'm not judging, everyone here knows I had multiple mid-fi as well. 

I got the SHP9500 just for fun, no reason besides that. I thought they would be a good pair throw around headphones, they are so cheap. I used X2 as mostly and sometimes THX00 as my gaming headphone. I was just wandering does the AD700X, perform better as a gaming headset, mainly for first person shooter such as C.S.

Hello, i want to improve the sound quality of my PC in general, all i do with it is gaming and Music, maybe watch some series sometimes but not much.

Actually i use the soundcard of my mb, wich is the typical Realtek ALC892 (http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z68%20Extreme4%20Gen3/?cat=Specifications) my headset are Logitech G430 (got them for 40€ last year).

These Headset comes with a USB adapter to make the Dolby Surround works with the Logitech Gaming Software, Its something i NEVER used cause it was horrible, plus, whenever i conected the Mic and Headphones through the adapter i could heard myself and i didnt like this at all so what i always did was conect the Headphone through Jack in my MB and the mic through USB .

Later On i bough a PS4 to play with friends, we play Shooters mostly so yeah a Headset is required here.

So, whenever i was in PC i was with these Headset, if i wanted to play in console i would change it, like this always, i feel kind of annoying having to do that all the time, but well. I used to connect the Headset to my PS4 through USB adapter, since it was better, I dont know why but through Jack Adapter the mic had so low volume, last week the USB adapter stopped working so i decided to get a new headset, i wanted 1 Headset for all so it was hard to find something, since all the recomendations say to get a Headphone and separate microphone, like i totally understand that gaming Headsets are BS but in terms of comfort when switching from PC to console they are great, i just dont like the idea of having to change many cables whenever i want to play in console.

With all the personal requeriments for headphones everything points me to buy the Astros a40 without MixAmp, since i dont play in console that much to be using the MixAmp, and i read it doesnt work so well in PC, after millions of webs reading that they dont worth the prize i decided to skip them and get something else, so many options but i end getting the SteelSeries Siberia 650, they were perfect in terms of changing cables, it comes with a USB Adapter to use the Dolby on PC, a Jack Adapter wich i had connected in my Ps4 controller so all i had to do is change 1 cable that i had next to my Keyboard to the adapter that i had conected in the controller, the sound was fine and they looks great,  but i just couldnt get used to the leather pads, years ago i used them, but nowdays aftter getting used to the cloth pads of my G430 i cant go back to Leather Pads, in the end, i return them back and now im here again, reading a bunch of recomendations.

All i know is, i decided to leave the G430 for my PS4 exclusively but yet, i want to get a new Headphones for PC, so getting a Studio Headphones is my best option, but since im new with it i need help.

+ Even if they are for Gaming mostly i dont care the mic, since i can use my webcam as mic but if they have, cool.

These are my most important requeriments:
1º Sound Quality.
2º NO Leather Pads, cloth or velvet its ok, but not Leather, i live in a hot place and i wouldnt enjoy wearing them in Spring and Summer.
3º Open Type, i use glasses so closed type are not so comfy.
 
And these not so important but good if they have:

3º Detachable cable.
4º No controls in the middle of the cable.
5º Mic.
6º Good Looking.
 
As you can see by MY requeriments the Astros A40 would be perfect if the quality of Sound were great but since they dont i dont consider them as an option unless i see a strong argument.
 
At the moment what i saw is: 
- Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro (80 ohm)
- AKG K612 pro
 
They would be PC use exclusive, so here comes another thing, do i need a new SoundCard for sure, so i was wondering if SoundBlaster Z would be good enough, and if having this makes me need and AMP?, i cant find any proper info about this soundcard with studio Headphones.
 
Sorry for long Long Post and bad english.
 
Thanks in Advance.