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Jun 10, 2014 at 12:36 PM Post #24,031 of 48,566
murder mike said:
   
You have the amp to easily drive the K612. I would take those for a spin. You're not likely to be disappointed. 
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+1 I love em for everything, especially for gaming - they're amazing.
 
Jun 10, 2014 at 12:51 PM Post #24,033 of 48,566
K612 > HD558, on all areas, period.
 
It's one whole step up above the HD558. So given the same price, there's really no reason to get the HD558 to be quite honest.
 
The only thing is, the K612 is a lot harder to drive than the HD558. So the amp is going to add to the cost there, the HD558 runs fine out of a phone even.
 
Jun 10, 2014 at 1:05 PM Post #24,035 of 48,566
sonnya85 said:
  Lot's of guys on here simply regurgitate what they have read rather than what they know for a fact.
 
The 598's suit competitive gaming to a T, it's in their sound signature.
 
For competitive gaming you want a can with very little bass, clear and detailed mids and not an overly bright treble.
 
The 598's , AD700, 595 and Q701 are some of the best competitive gaming cans you can buy. The Q701 require a very powerful amp so they aren't really recommended, they are also very expensive.
 
595 and ad700 are the cheapest and easy to drive but they are only available second hand.
 
I wanted the 598's but I opted for the 558's to save 1/3rd off the price. The 558's use the same driver as the 598's just different housing which changes the sound they produce slightly.
 
It's not worse than the 598's just different and can be modded. I should have the 558's today and compare them with 595's (the older brother of 598's). The 598's blow my fidelio x1's away for competitive gaming yet people on here think the X1 is amazing. It's good as an all rounder if you can only afford one headphone for gaming, music and movies. but people who can buy more than one phone should only use it for music/movies and get one of the others I have mentioned.
 
Headfonia say the stock 558 beats a stock 555 and a modded 558 beats a stock 555 too. It's a pity they didn't test against a stock 595 or a modded 555, but the stock 555 is similar to a 595 anyway.
So I think a stock 558 is all you need for competitive gaming. I will know for sure within the next 24 hours. Postie is bringing them any second now.
 
The 558 uses the same drivers as a 598, your paying extra for the housing on the 598 which tightens everything up slightly.
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Okay, so why are you in here asking disingenuous questions if you know everything already?
 
And just to point out a few things:  1 - I always state whether or not I've heard something I'm talking about.  1.5 -
"Know for a fact"?  This hobby is all about opinions.  2 - Q701 requires an amp, it doesn't require "a very powerful amp".  They're also dirt cheap used.  You can get them on AWD for $140.  3 - Nobody has ever said the X1 is amazing for competitive gaming.  The reason everyone recommends it is because, as you said, it's a great all-arounder.  When you came in and asked your stupid ******* question with no context, of course we're going to recommend the better all-arounder.
 
tl;dr - We can call you out on your ******** too, so check your facts if you're going to act high and mighty.
 
Jun 10, 2014 at 1:16 PM Post #24,037 of 48,566
well.. 612pro is far more refined headphone with fantastic dynamics and transparency, comparing with 598.. imho, it even outclass X1 too. 
 
612pro  > X1 > 598 > 558  
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Jun 10, 2014 at 1:21 PM Post #24,038 of 48,566
Ok, based on all of Your opinions I'll go with AKG K612. I hope their music performance is on par with their gaming performance, I'd rather have one awesome pair of headphones instead of few with different applications.
 
Jun 10, 2014 at 1:26 PM Post #24,039 of 48,566
change is good said:
Lol all this K612 praise has me thinking twice about selling mine...
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Based off my experience with the Q701 and the HP100, I suspect you're right that the HP200 is better than the K612.  Since I haven't heard either, I can't say for sure, obviously. 
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Jun 10, 2014 at 2:17 PM Post #24,040 of 48,566
I wouldn't necessarily say, now after further comparing, that one is better than the other. Both have a very similar tone... with minimal tradeoffs. HP200 has a bit more bass, while the K612 has a wider soundstage.

Efficiency is the main reason why I'm choosing the HP200. Dat AKG soundstage, DOE! Decisions decisions... :frowning2:
 
Jun 10, 2014 at 2:58 PM Post #24,043 of 48,566
Thanks for the great thread, I have read through tons of pages.
I have some logitech headphones now that I have had for a few years, they are falling apart so I need some new ones.
 
What would you guys recommend based on the following:
1. PC Desktop use - 80% gaming 20% music.
2. Mix of PC games not just FPS.  I don't play competitive matches anymore not enough time, but I like to get into a serious rumble now and then on public servers.
3. Powered off of Soundblaster Z
4. Wife gets bugged by a lot of sound, so they need to be closed or not leak sound real bad. I typically listen at lower volumes anyhow so maybe even with open she won't get bugged?  My current headphones if I take them off and set them on the desk I can't hear anything out of them while music is playing.
5. Does not need to have a mic I can add one later.
6. Budget? Would like to be under $200 for the headphones.
 
Jun 10, 2014 at 3:04 PM Post #24,044 of 48,566
silverwind said:
  Thanks for the great thread, I have read through tons of pages.
I have some logitech headphones now that I have had for a few years, they are falling apart so I need some new ones.
 
What would you guys recommend based on the following:
1. PC Desktop use - 80% gaming 20% music.
2. Mix of PC games not just FPS.  I don't play competitive matches anymore not enough time, but I like to get into a serious rumble now and then on public servers.
3. Powered off of Soundblaster Z
4. Wife gets bugged by a lot of sound, so they need to be closed or not leak sound real bad. I typically listen at lower volumes anyhow so maybe even with open she won't get bugged?  My current headphones if I take them off and set them on the desk I can't hear anything out of them while music is playing.
5. Does not need to have a mic I can add one later.
6. Budget? Would like to be under $200 for the headphones.
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At under $200 with no amping needed, my recommendations are the SoundMAGIC HP200 or HP100. Can't go wrong with either, just a matter of preference whether you want an open neutral sound, or closed and slightly v-shaped/fun experience.
 
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