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Aug 17, 2012 at 7:32 AM Post #4,141 of 65,686
My SR80 are 4 years old and in my rotation of the Ultrasone HFI 780 and Audia Technica A700. Definitely fun for rock, I have them on now.
 
Aug 17, 2012 at 7:46 AM Post #4,142 of 65,686
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Indeed.
 
Grados are some of the easiest headphones to get back up to spec, I find. Grado's customer service is some of the best I've encountered, and their construction is relatively simple (in a good way), so replacing parts is not that big of a deal and relatively cheaper compared to some other companies.
 
When I got my pair of PS-1s, the little black end-caps were missing, and Grado responded to my e-mail within a few hours, sending out a set of them free of charge. They also offered to recable them for a decent price if I felt the current cable was too twisted up.
 
I say go for it!

 
i love the simplicity of the grado design where form follows function. they are deceptively robust and long lasting. it's great that grado continues to service their products long after the warranty has expired.
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Aug 17, 2012 at 7:55 AM Post #4,143 of 65,686
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i love the simplicity of the grado design where form follows function. they are deceptively robust and long lasting. it's great that grado continues to service their products long after the warranty has expired.
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Don't forget that grado/alessandro is the easiest headphone to mod to achive great sound quality and great looks, i really love my grado/alessandro
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Aug 17, 2012 at 8:04 AM Post #4,144 of 65,686
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Indeed.
 
Grados are some of the easiest headphones to get back up to spec, I find. Grado's customer service is some of the best I've encountered, and their construction is relatively simple (in a good way), so replacing parts is not that big of a deal and relatively cheaper compared to some other companies.
 
When I got my pair of PS-1s, the little black end-caps were missing, and Grado responded to my e-mail within a few hours, sending out a set of them free of charge. They also offered to recable them for a decent price if I felt the current cable was too twisted up.
 
I say go for it!

How do you like your PS1?
I always have a love/hate relationship with mine- I like the silky smooth mids but always have issues with their bass (overpowering; mid bass heavy...) which affects the overall balance. They are almost like a side step to RS1 but the market prices of these two headphones are very different!
 
Aug 17, 2012 at 9:32 AM Post #4,145 of 65,686
PINK DRIVERS ON A RS2i !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So what I'm curious about is, is the "pinkness" the result of oxidation then? :confused_face_2:

Those almost look like they were just left in the sun or some other abrasive scenario (used as mobiles or something), I've had weather-stripping foam and gasket tape fall apart like that after a year or two riding on my car or garage door or something like that; I mean, I can't even imagine how much abuse you'd have to subject an RS-1/RS-2 to get that result, nothing I'd want near my head that's for sure, but still.
 
Aug 17, 2012 at 9:45 AM Post #4,147 of 65,686
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So what I'm curious about is, is the "pinkness" the result of oxidation then?
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Those almost look like they were just left in the sun or some other abrasive scenario (used as mobiles or something), I've had weather-stripping foam and gasket tape fall apart like that after a year or two riding on my car or garage door or something like that; I mean, I can't even imagine how much abuse you'd have to subject an RS-1/RS-2 to get that result, nothing I'd want near my head that's for sure, but still.

 
I believe the cheese cloth that covers the drivers on most early John Grado headphones would turn pink or brown after a while. It happened just with normal use. 
 
Aug 17, 2012 at 9:57 AM Post #4,148 of 65,686
I believe the cheese cloth that covers the drivers on most early John Grado headphones would turn pink or brown after a while. It happened just with normal use. 


Yeah but I'm wondering if it isn't plausible that if I left my RS-1i out for a long enough amount of time, or just wait ten years, will they discolor in the same manner? Is it chemical or physical.
 
Aug 17, 2012 at 10:06 AM Post #4,149 of 65,686
I think the chemical properties of the material is slightly different, to where the newer stuff doesn't discolor in the same way. Could be wrong about that though. Might be possible to discolor it one's self, and it wouldn't surprise me if some people tried doing it just to make more money on a sale....
 
Aug 17, 2012 at 10:42 AM Post #4,150 of 65,686
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Yeah but I'm wondering if it isn't plausible that if I left my RS-1i out for a
long enough amount of time, or just wait ten years, will they discolor in the same manner? Is it chemical or physical.

No, they won't. It only happened with the early ones. I have never seen a pink RS1i. Grado Labs must have changed supplier for the cloth at some point. They use better stuff now- no discolouration. 
Then again I have never seen a pair of pink RS2 either. What do I know? 
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Aug 17, 2012 at 11:02 AM Post #4,151 of 65,686
There is also a pair of "pink" MS1's for sale on ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/230836842219?_trksid=p5197.c0.m619#ht_500wt_1191
Musta found some old cheese cloth lying around.....
 
Aug 17, 2012 at 11:04 AM Post #4,152 of 65,686
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Ladies and gentlemen, the most used up pair of RS2i ever:
 
 an atomic bomb blast radius survivor
 

 
They're not RS2i, they're debuttoned old school RS2.  If they were RS2i the wwriting would read 'Grado Reference Series' around the top, and RS2 at the bottom.  My guess would be they've been used near something that discloured the cloth, cigarette smoke maybe?
 
Aug 17, 2012 at 11:06 AM Post #4,153 of 65,686
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There is also a pair of "pink" MS1's for sale on ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/230836842219?_trksid=p5197.c0.m619#ht_500wt_1191
Musta found some old cheese cloth lying around.....

 
If i was cynical i would say that those have been discoloured by the very pink looking foam earpads in the pictures...
 
Aug 17, 2012 at 5:08 PM Post #4,155 of 65,686
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They're not RS2i, they're debuttoned old school RS2.  If they were RS2i the wwriting would read 'Grado Reference Series' around the top, and RS2 at the bottom.  My guess would be they've been used near something that discloured the cloth, cigarette smoke maybe?

 
You very right:

 
 

 
The four conductors cable comes to comfort that.
 
I'm sorry for that precipitate claim and how it degenerated, it's my error. I really felt like the thinner fonts were that of a RS2i (or a buttonless RS-1-type buttonless RS-2 but we've never seen that before so I wouldn't count on it).
 
Bowl pads were also released very much around the time of the RS2 so it's possible, and explains better why they're now disintegrating, and much more aged than I initially felt like they were.
 
 
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So what I'm curious about is, is the "pinkness" the result of oxidation then?
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Those almost look like they were just left in the sun or some other abrasive scenario (used as mobiles or something), I've had weather-stripping foam and gasket tape fall apart like that after a year or two riding on my car or garage door or something like that; I mean, I can't even imagine how much abuse you'd have to subject an RS-1/RS-2 to get that result, nothing I'd want near my head that's for sure, but still.

 
Quite possible, though I'm not aware of anyone experimenting with the sun on the cheese clothe and diaphragm of his Grados (I don't think it was done before). Weathering is a very strong process indeed :p
 
 
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There is also a pair of "pink" MS1's for sale on ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/230836842219?_trksid=p5197.c0.m619#ht_500wt_1191
Musta found some old cheese cloth lying around.....

 
It's a good example of claiming the "Pink driver of the Grado lore" to try to elevate the winning bid. Those drivers are not pink, they're white, and this is a MS1i. I'd be also cynically to think that the slight pink tint around the edge is due to the red dyed HD414 pads, like cynical version Rav.
 

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