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Jul 19, 2016 at 6:48 AM Post #32,866 of 65,687
  Can someone talk me through how the SR125e or SR225e compare to the SR60i? I have been borrowing some SR60s with HD414 pads and I enjoy them for some music. Such fun cans. My one complaint is the highs occasionally get almost painful. Do the SR125 or SR225 smooth this out a little? What is the difference between the i and e models of Prestige Series?

well..according to what i researched for some time now, the e series offer more bass and less bright highs..however remember that whatever pads you use + your audio gear contribute to the sound.
 
Jul 19, 2016 at 9:47 AM Post #32,867 of 65,687
 
  I think Joe retired in like, 1990 , maybe.
 
Could be he bought another company....one thing for sure, he was always tinkering with stuff after he retired...I want to say he had like twenty- something patents.
 
In my opinion, the HP1000 would be the most limited..because it was not released as a limited edition and only 1000 exist....back at that time internet sales were not there and Joseph had to travel around with the gear.
 
They did not really advertise.
 
At this point in time, with internet sales what they are and the younger generation taking over, and I am not saying this is a bad thing
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, social media becomes a huge tool and you get your product to more people and also must create more product to fill the demand.
 
I believe more Grado headphones are being made than ever before, so they are very much succeeding in growing their business.

 
I find it odd whirl, that John Grado proudly writes ''Grado Heritage'' on his GH1, and yet, he doesn't include the most well constructed, and greatly appreciated Grado model ever produced.
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In my opinion, John should give is uncle the recognition he deserves, after all, if it wasn't for Joseph Grado, there wouldn't even be a Grado heritage.

Joseph Grado was a brilliant man 
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Jul 19, 2016 at 12:53 PM Post #32,868 of 65,687
   
That is an interesting observation! Right now I think I'm at the stage where I'm just exploring some of my older music, picking out nuances to appreciate (or laugh about).
For example, just the other night I noticed lightly in the background (between 1 & 2 mins) of David Gray's 'Please Forgive Me' is some off-tempo percussion. I hadn't picked up on that before.

 
I'm not surprised, Grados are very good at retrieving background details in a recordings.
 
 
  http://www.gradolabs.com/company/timeline

1989

Signature Headphones

Joe Grado introduces his Signature line of headphones

That's pretty much every thing they says right now about the HP1000.

 

 
I'm sure that John Grado knows A LOT about the HP1000, but he, and Joseph, didn't see eye to eye, when it came to headphones desing.
 
I find it ridiculous that wikipedia has more information regarding the HP1000, than Grado's own website!
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  Joseph Grado was a brilliant man 
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He was, and I think that John is too. They both have produced some great sounding headphones. 
 
That being said, in my opinion, John philosophy is biased a bit more towards quantity, while for Joseph, quality seemed to be the priority.
 
 
Jul 20, 2016 at 3:00 AM Post #32,870 of 65,687
I want the HP1000, which I know I'll never have as it costs too much and I'm not in the US...

Great headphone but, today, you have a lot of headphones in the market.
And, most important, the only person "official repair" was Joe Grado

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Jul 20, 2016 at 3:41 AM Post #32,871 of 65,687
Yep I wouldn't say that Grados can't be matched in terms of p/p. Of the same price range there would be plenty of choices and since we're talking $2000, well...
But the thing that I love about Grado is that trademark design and their house sound. I don't know if the HP1000 would sound like all the Grados I've loved, but I don't think it would stray too far. Even those Magnums sound more Grado than the PS500 to me, and that doesn't mean that the PS500 isn't a true Grado.
 
Btw, I was googling about "Grado boxes" (would have to send friends the picture of the same box so they'll know how much space my Grados would take in their luggage) and suddenly I miss the old pizza boxes so much. Those just look out of the ordinary, unlike the current boxes, which doesn't feel special to me.
 
Jul 20, 2016 at 6:14 AM Post #32,872 of 65,687
Yep I wouldn't say that Grados can't be matched in terms of p/p. Of the same price range there would be plenty of choices and since we're talking $2000, well...
But the thing that I love about Grado is that trademark design and their house sound. I don't know if the HP1000 would sound like all the Grados I've loved, but I don't think it would stray too far. Even those Magnums sound more Grado than the PS500 to me, and that doesn't mean that the PS500 isn't a true Grado.
 
Btw, I was googling about "Grado boxes" (would have to send friends the picture of the same box so they'll know how much space my Grados would take in their luggage) and suddenly I miss the old pizza boxes so much. Those just look out of the ordinary, unlike the current boxes, which doesn't feel special to me.

The hp-1000 is a fascinating object and of course has a beautiful sound
I had one in the same period with ps-1000, hf-2 and magnum v5. I don't know the new symphones drivers, i think that magnum is near of hp-1000 philosophy but not equal.
The modern grados another style.
So good one hp-1000 in the hands....

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Jul 20, 2016 at 6:59 AM Post #32,873 of 65,687
 
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In honesty, I was disappointed the first day I had them. I'm used to a much thicker midbass, and while the detail of the midbass through these is tremendous, I felt it lacked presence. I don't know if they somehow burned in super quickly, or they got acclimated from being shipped (or maybe more plausibly, my ears adjusted); but the next day I started falling in love with them and found the midbass far more reasonable. I still wouldn't mind thickening it up a bit, so I'm thinking I might order a set of leatherette pads to try:
 
https://www.amazon.com/EarZonk-Long-Life-Leatherette-Cushions-Headphones/dp/B00OM21W1I/ref=pd_ybh_a_17?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=NKF645KDMHN3W0AXQDND
 
I know a lot of diehards hate the idea of altering the sound, but I figured it'd be worth a try for me. If I don't like them, I can always swap them out again, right?

you might wanna try the tape mod. super easy, cheap and reversible mod to try.  Just take some scotch tape and tape it around your earpads like so:

this image was taken from this article, which is very interesting: http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/evaluation-grado-stock-and-modified-ear-pads#iVsGlIKv2EqlDh8v.97
 
Changing earpads is one of the most effective (and cheapest) ways of changing up the sound a bit to your Grados. And just so you know, they will all fit on your rs2e. Congrats by the way, nice cans!
 
Jul 20, 2016 at 7:02 AM Post #32,874 of 65,687
The hp-1000 is a fascinating object and of course has a beautiful sound
I had one in the same period with ps-1000, hf-2 and magnum v5. I don't know the new symphones drivers, i think that magnum is near of hp-1000 philosophy but not equal.
The modern grados another style.
So good one hp-1000 in the hands....

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Have you tried the Eleven Acoustica Ypsilon driver?  Its really good, better than my RS2e to me
 
Jul 20, 2016 at 8:53 AM Post #32,875 of 65,687
  well..according to what i researched for some time now, the e series offer more bass and less bright highs..however remember that whatever pads you use + your audio gear contribute to the sound.


Cool thanks. I may keep my eyes out for some used SR60e then. I want to try my hand at some Grado mods.
 
I am using a Centrance DACPort Slim with the SR60s I have been borrowing.
 
Jul 20, 2016 at 9:12 AM Post #32,876 of 65,687
 
Cool thanks. I may keep my eyes out for some used SR60e then. I want to try my hand at some Grado mods.
 
I am using a Centrance DACPort Slim with the SR60s I have been borrowing.


I may be wrong in thinking so, but i believe the sr80(e/i) offers a better price/quality ratio than the sr60(e/i).
 
Jul 20, 2016 at 10:11 AM Post #32,877 of 65,687
  Yep I wouldn't say that Grados can't be matched in terms of p/p. Of the same price range there would be plenty of choices and since we're talking $2000, well...
But the thing that I love about Grado is that trademark design and their house sound. I don't know if the HP1000 would sound like all the Grados I've loved, but I don't think it would stray too far. Even those Magnums sound more Grado than the PS500 to me, and that doesn't mean that the PS500 isn't a true Grado.
 
Btw, I was googling about "Grado boxes" (would have to send friends the picture of the same box so they'll know how much space my Grados would take in their luggage) and suddenly I miss the old pizza boxes so much. Those just look out of the ordinary, unlike the current boxes, which doesn't feel special to me.

 
The HP-1000 were built for monitoring , so their sound is much less colored than other Grados. The HP1k, tell it like it is. With good recordings, they sound amazing, however, they won't make chicken soup, out of chicken poop.
 
 
 
I may be wrong in thinking so, but i believe the sr80(e/i) offers a better price/quality ratio than the sr60(e/i).

 
Yes, you are wrong!
 
Just kidding
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I agree, unless someone is on a thight budget, the SR80e/i is a no brainer.
 
Jul 20, 2016 at 5:56 PM Post #32,880 of 65,687
 no. now i´m out from high-end headphones

the Ypsilon driver is not high-end in price, actually cheaper than the current Magnum driver.

Thanks for advice but i sold all my headphones
Now i have just an oppo pm-3

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