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post #151 of 1379
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Originally Posted by ianmedium View Post
With my ipod I use itunes, what does one use with this player?

 

Good old humble, drag and drop.

post #152 of 1379
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Originally Posted by rawrster View Post

The ferrite bead is there..you just can't see it from that pic. I have plenty of usb cables so I'm not planning on using that cable. I like the case it comes with as it's a nice touch. I was wondering what the heck it was when I got the package today. I might get one of those ipod socks for the 601 off amazon for $2-3. It doesn't look like it would scratch too easily but don't wanna take my chances.

 

I noticed earlier than the 601 unfortunately doesn't like it when my cell phone is in use but isn't as bad as the T3 amp I had not too long ago. I'll do some A/B with my J3 in a couple of days and see how that goes. I recall Fang mentioning burn in for the dap. How many hours did you do before comparing it with the s:flo2? For some reason I want to keep both..maybe I'll get a setup where it's 1 dap and 1 custom each. That sounds like an amazing plan.


My 602 and Arrow are wrapped in invisible shield so I slide it all over the place outside the Pelican with no worries.  I'm also not using any velcro or rubber bands w/ my setup.  I happened upon a really cool product from Scotch.  I recommend the tabs over the strips, they are really really strong and non permanent.  My 602 is way sensitive to EMI and external noise.  If I have my Arrow back to back w/ the 602 there is a lot of noise.  If I flip it and go back to top the problem is fixed as long as the Arrow doesn't extend past the top jacks of the DAP.  I went more than a week before the comparison but that was just more of being tied up and busy.  I think 3-4 days of use is quite safe.  Told you you would want to keep both.  wink_face.gif  Both different flavors but excellent in their own rights.  If I didn't have the QA350 I would have kept my Sflo2.  I know Kiteki didn't like my analogy but I still think the Sflo2 is really awesome chocolate icecream while the 602 is perhaps the best Vanilla I've ever had.  tongue.gif    

 

post #153 of 1379
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Originally Posted by ianmedium View Post
With my ipod I use itunes, what does one use with this player?

 

Good old humble, drag and drop.


Sorry for being so dumb! I have only every used the old Sony system or itunes, is drag and drop windows media player? if so does it support FLAC, sorry, treat me like a complete idiot with this!

post #154 of 1379

Ha no worries my man. Drag and drop is just using Finder/Explorer to move files onto the player. In other words, you use your operating systems file management program to copy/cut music files onto the player (which shows up as a removable disk, similar to a thumb drive).

 

And yes the player supports FLAC.

post #155 of 1379
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Ha no worries my man. Drag and drop is just using Finder/Explorer to move files onto the player. In other words, you use your operating systems file management program to copy/cut music files onto the player (which shows up as a removable disk, similar to a thumb drive).

 

And yes the player supports FLAC.



Thank you so much for taking the time to explain that to me. So All I would have to do is find some way of converting the files I have on my hard drive which show up in iTunes into flac and then simply drag them on to the SD cards which I know even I am capable of doing. So the only remaining question is how do I convert the files to FLAC?

 

I wonder if I am the only one who has so little idea how these things work, I think that is why I have stuck to itunes as I find it really simple!

 

As per usual, Aussie hospitality rules the day, thanks mate!

 

I think I am going to treat myself to this player in the new year, all tapped out right now due to the stepdance and D5000's that I have just purchased!


Edited by ianmedium - 11/29/10 at 8:52pm
post #156 of 1379

No problem, gives me something to do to fill the day out :P 

 

So as such an iTunes fan I'm going to guess you use OS X? Can I ask how big your library is (how many songs/albums would you want to put onto the player) and do you have much spare hard drive space?

post #157 of 1379

Don't wait too long to buy it. The current bundle of the 601 and RE-Zero only lasts until the end of December. After that the RE-Zero won't be included and I'm guessing the price might go up a bit to be a bit closer to the 602 but not too close where they compete with each other.

post #158 of 1379

Has anybody tried using MediaMonkey with the 601/602?  That's what I use for all my other DAPs so it would be nice if I could use the same system throughout...

 

 

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 I know Kiteki didn't like my analogy but I still think the Sflo2 is really awesome chocolate icecream while the 602 is perhaps the best Vanilla I've ever had.  tongue.gif

 

Hah, I wonder if Kiteki has seen this thread yet!  I'm still chuckling about her s:flo2 story.  So what flavor is the 601 then? Vanilla swirl maybe? I do love me some chocolate ice cream, I guess its a good thing I ordered the s:flo2 first!

post #159 of 1379
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No problem, gives me something to do to fill the day out :P 

 

So as such an iTunes fan I'm going to guess you use OS X? Can I ask how big your library is (how many songs/albums would you want to put onto the player) and do you have much spare hard drive space?



AhHa! Homework!! I use windows 7 and I have about 360 albums, around 140 gig all lossless. All of it is on a 500gig external hard drive. I would want to get enough SD cards so that I can carry my entire library around with me (I love being able to access them all on the move!)

As to waiting, hmm, I will have to wait and see how some client bonuses go over the christmas period, I may be able to squeeze it in before the deadline!


Edited by ianmedium - 11/29/10 at 9:12pm
post #160 of 1379
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Has anybody tried using MediaMonkey with the 601/602?  That's what I use for all my other DAPs so it would be nice if I could use the same system throughout...

 



I've heard that MediaMonkey supports MSC, so there is a possibility.

post #161 of 1379
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Has anybody tried using MediaMonkey with the 601/602?  That's what I use for all my other DAPs so it would be nice if I could use the same system throughout...

 



I've heard that MediaMonkey supports MSC, so there is a possibility.



Mediamonkey certainly does...it is what I use for all my players, which are set to MSC.

post #162 of 1379

Excellent, now I just want one that much more!
 

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Originally Posted by alyanm View Post

Has anybody tried using MediaMonkey with the 601/602?  That's what I use for all my other DAPs so it would be nice if I could use the same system throughout...

 



I've heard that MediaMonkey supports MSC, so there is a possibility.



Mediamonkey certainly does...it is what I use for all my players, which are set to MSC.


 

post #163 of 1379

My HifiMan 601 arrived today.  First impressions- it is a brick, a good looking (in a retro way) brick.  Certainly fine for my needs (physical size) but would definately make a large impression on the average pocket for those using these "on the go".  It appears very well made, feels sturdy, with the only exception to that being a bit of movement (looseness) on the silver square menu navigation bar; it rattles audibly if I shake the unit.

 

The menu navigation is ok, nothing to rave about, but fairly simple and I have picked it up quickly enough, it just isn't what I would call intuitive by design. 

 

There has been some debate about the sound quality, particularly from the "lets measure it"  brigade, who believe that the HifiMan DAPs are rolled off and not up to scratch.  In the other corner is the " it sounds like a quality old school tape machine, just the way a good DAP should."

 

I couldn't care less how something measures, particularly when measurement is focused on frequency response, as I think that there is so much that isn't measured, like soundstage, and overall sound signature traits.  I am a "how does the thing sound" Headfier and so I was interested in how the Hifiman sounds, particularly in comparison to my faithful Sony NWZ-A816, which is a great sounding DAP; with a very slight hissing issue as its only real fault, however I use supra -aural headphones as opposed to IEMs so it isn't really an issue.

 

Well I have only listened to the 601 for a couple of hours, but my initial sound impression is:

 

I love it.  It is a big sound, full, lush, warm;  it works for me.  If the high end sound is rolled off, it doesn't impact the overall enjoyment for my ears, treble nuance and clarity are great from what I hear.  It is a warm sounding DAP but it is not so warm that one would call it dark.  The fullness of the sound, very full bodied and the depth of sound are what I notice as the biggest difference to my Sony DAP.  At around $200 AUD landed ( taking out the RE-Zero), I think it is a bargain. 

 

EDIT: When the music stops the HiFiman is black, no hiss.  Instrument separation is also outstanding, the 601 has a very clear and detailed sound.


Edited by Kernmac - 12/1/10 at 12:56am
post #164 of 1379
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Originally Posted by Kernmac View Post

My HifiMan 601 arrived today.  First impressions- it is a brick, a good looking (in a retro way) brick.  Certainly fine for my needs (physical size) but would definately make a large impression on the average pocket for those using these "on the go".  It appears very well made, feels sturdy, with the only exception to that being a bit of movement (looseness) on the silver square menu navigation bar; it rattles audibly if I shake the unit.

 

The menu navigation is ok, nothing to rave about, but fairly simple and I have picked it up quickly enough, it just isn't what I would call intuitive by design. 

 

There has been some debate about the sound quality, particularly from the "lets measure it"  brigade, who believe that the HifiMan DAPs are rolled off and not up to scratch.  In the other corner is the " it sounds like a quality old school tape machine, just the way a good DAP should."

 

I couldn't care less how something measures, particularly when measurement is focused on frequency response, as I think that there is so much that isn't measured, like soundstage, and overall sound signature traits.  I am a "how does the thing sound" Headfier and so I was interested in how the Hifiman sounds, particularly in comparison to my faithful Sony NWZ-A816, which is a great sounding DAP; with a very slight hissing issue as its only real fault, however I use supra -aural headphones as opposed to IEMs so it isn't really an issue.

 

Well I have only listened to the 601 for a couple of hours, but my initial sound impression is:

 

I love it.  It is a big sound, full, lush, warm;  it works for me.  If the high end sound is rolled off, it doesn't impact the overall enjoyment for my ears, treble nuance and clarity are great from what I hear.  It is a warm sounding DAP but it is not so warm that one would call it dark.  The fullness of the sound, very full bodied and the depth of sound are what I notice as the biggest difference to my Sony DAP.  At around $200 AUD landed ( taking out the RE-Zero), I think it is a bargain. 

 

EDIT: When the music stops the HiFiman is black, no hiss.  Instrument separation is also outstanding, the 601 has a very clear and detailed sound.


That is great news, since my order has been shipped already and I was hoping this player would add more warmth and weight to my music, and it sounds like it does just that. The RE-ZERO's are a nice bonus, but the main reason for the purchase was to inject a little more lushness into my W5000/HA5000 setup. I can hardly wait from your description! Keep us updated, great post! Cheers, 

post #165 of 1379

Thanks for your impressions.

 

I used to have the NWZ-A818 so I'm with you on it's SQ, but the hiss was a bit much for my customs. Would you say that the Sony is darker than the 601 or vice versa?

 

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Originally Posted by Kernmac View Post

 

I couldn't care less how something measures, particularly when measurement is focused on frequency response, as I think that there is so much that isn't measured, like soundstage, and overall sound signature traits.  I am a "how does the thing sound" Headfier and so I was interested in how the Hifiman sounds, particularly in comparison to my faithful Sony NWZ-A816, which is a great sounding DAP; with a very slight hissing issue as its only real fault, however I use supra -aural headphones as opposed to IEMs so it isn't really an issue.

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