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The previous post is only for the sake of improving my guide... Therefore ignore it :-)

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The modification guide including all sub-parts was significantly improved and modified...

 

THE HIFIMAN HE-4 MODIFICATION AND PAD-ROLLING GUIDE


Edited by Ron12 - 7/12/14 at 6:12am
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I added general recommendations for pads according to preference of each listener... Let me know if you want me to add any specific category or correct something!

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Originally Posted by Ron12 View Post

I added general recommendations for pads according to preference of each listener... Let me know if you want me to add any specific category or correct something!

Looks really good, thank you!

Maybe we can add in some info at the top about HE-4 revisions. Not everyone has the star felt in more recent releases, from my understanding
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Originally Posted by mrscotchguy View Post


Looks really good, thank you!

Maybe we can add in some info at the top about HE-4 revisions. Not everyone has the star felt in more recent releases, from my understanding

 

Thank you for your feedback!

 

I am still not sure how many different HE-4s are out there... I am aware of the early one version without the start felt (foam circle/disc instead), and the one w/ star felt which should be the current one. But I will add a note (just click on the star felt mode link and you will immediately find it).


Edited by Ron12 - 7/13/14 at 2:56am
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Thread Starter 

Hey guys,

 

So I have been out of the loop for awhile when it comes to the HE-4's (actually just sold mine off). 

 

I would like to get the first post as comprehensive as possible. I went through the thread a few months ago trying to add in additional links to the first post but i am sure I missed some great information.

 

If anyone has any reviews, modifications, photo's, etc that they feel should be linked on the first post please PM me with the details and I can update it as necessary.

 

Thanks.

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There is something magical about the Beyer 990 pads... It's the way HE-4 presents music with them - it's not like listening to headphones, it's like being there, at the gig... Super-transparent and open sound. Obviously you cannot headbang much with the phones on your head... but still :D

 

(Don't know why but each time I look at the pads, I think of Mshenay and his enthusiasm for uber-treble-heavy sound... :cool: Maybe he somewhat managed to spoil me!)


Edited by Ron12 - 7/13/14 at 7:14am
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HIFIMAN HE-4 ADDITIONAL INFO

 

 

 

MEASUREMENTS:

 

HE-4 with Hifiman velour pads (newer version most probably):

 

 

HE-4 with Hifiman pleather pads:

 

 

IMPORTANT NOTE: These two graphs were sourced from Personal Audio (see http://personalaudio.ru/raa/otchety/naushniki/). For alternative measurement of frequency response + distortion and CSD, please google 'Hifiman HE-4 measurements' and find a page of this exact name, as it is not allowed to post links, refer or even name this specific website on Head-Fi AND (at the same time) it is also not allowed to post graphs from that website without adding a proper reference. I am not aware of any other existing measurement of Hifiman HE-4 available on the internet, therefore it should be easy to find this one out.

 

 

 

REVISIONS:

 

 

THE VERY FIRST EDITION:

 

 

 

OLDER REVISION:

 

 

 

 

CURRENT REVISION (AFAIK):

 

 

 

 

UNKNOWN VERSION (MOST PROBABLY NOT A REVISION BUT SPECIFICALLY REFURBISHED/REPAIRED HEADPHONE):

 

 

 

NOTE: The total number of revisions is unknown.

 

NOTE2: There is a speculation that the newest revision does not have the star felt (as was the case with older HE-4s).

 

 

 

 

POWER DEMANDS:

 

 

 

Reference: http://www.mediafire.com/view/dzwe1g73q6pbhnx/headphone%20power%20table.pdf


Edited by Ron12 - 7/13/14 at 1:32pm
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Added impressions from other users about some other pads to the HE-4 guide... Let me know if I have overlooked anything in this thread!


Edited by Ron12 - 7/13/14 at 1:27pm
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What's the story behind this "other website" and why can't it be mentioned?
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Originally Posted by bassboysam View Post

What's the story behind this "other website" and why can't it be mentioned?

 

This cannot be discussed here AFAIK... But it's the same situation as usual - a member gets banned and therefore you  cannot discuss about or refer his/her work here in any way.


Edited by Ron12 - 7/13/14 at 2:36pm
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Btw, I am listening to some ripped live blu-ray or dvd concerts with the Beyer 990 pads... And I am simply amazed how much LIVE it feels. I have never heard headphone to sound as authentic, even HD800 sounded more like headphones. It's the combination of HE-4's tonality and timbre, extreme openness of Beyer pads and both recommended modifications (in the HE-4 guide) that makes the HE-4 so authentic-sounding...

 

The only thing that is little limiting this feeling is the fact that I am listening to headphones and therefore soundstage is simply limited to rather small area around my head. But within this space, it feels like being there, at the concert/gig, really! It's really something I have never experienced before.

 

I would not call HE-4 + Beyer pads neutral or timbrally perfectly accurate... But it somehow sounds very authentic.

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Originally Posted by Ron12 View Post
 

There is something magical about the Beyer 990 pads... It's the way HE-4 presents music with them - it's not like listening to headphones, it's like being there, at the gig... Super-transparent and open sound. Obviously you cannot headbang much with the phones on your head... but still :D

 

(Don't know why but each time I look at the pads, I think of Mshenay and his enthusiasm for uber-treble-heavy sound... :cool: Maybe he somewhat managed to spoil me!)

mwahahaha

 

my work here is done, but seriously though Beyer Pads have a break in period [like legit no joke] so new pads tend to sound a little harsh, where as broken in pads [which sit slighty angled] tend to sound better, due to the material they use to make them, it softens over time according to the pressure put onto them by your headphones/ ur head 

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Mine don't look like any of those revisions that you have above. Mine are from the last shipment that Headamp received of the HE-4 last year so I presume they are the latest revision.

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Originally Posted by Rinx7 View Post
 

Mine don't look like any of those revisions that you have above. Mine are from the last shipment that Headamp received of the HE-4 last year so I presume they are the latest revision.

 

Pics or didn't happen! ;) 

 

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Originally Posted by Rinx7 View Post
 

Just an FYI the newest version of the HE-4 which I have (The last production run of it from late 2013) does not have felt on the grill side of the driver besides a somewhat thin dust cover and the grill. 

 

 

(I have seen both older and 'current' rev myself... and it would not make sense logically to not use star felt, then use it and than not use it again... So you should at least post images to prove that there might be something right about what you say. You definitely don't have to do it but I would have to leave it as a speculation then. Thanks for considering my request! :-) )


Edited by Ron12 - 7/13/14 at 8:26pm
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