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Grado sound, but with better soundstage and sub-bass

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Just like the topic reads. I'm looking for something that retains the general toe-tapping sound of the grado sound, while also managing to have much more impact in the sub-bass (no mid bass bleed or needless warmth) and better soundstage. I can make bass better to a pretty good degree on my sr60s with an EQ, but I can't do much about the soundstage.

 

So I'm basically wondering what my options are. For those of you with lots of experience trying different headphones, any advice would be wonderful.

 

Thanks!

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Denon AH-D7000 - Headphones
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I've tried the Denon AH-D7000 at the canjam meet. It has the best impact in the sub-bass. The kick drums sounded very round and smooth. I have not tried the models before the D7000.

post #3 of 49

Get an MS Pro, add liberators and use Bowls (or better yet, use Beyer Pads). That will give you the Grado sound plus all the bass you can eat and huge soundstage.
 

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Just like the topic reads. I'm looking for something that retains the general toe-tapping sound of the grado sound, while also managing to have much more impact in the sub-bass (no mid bass bleed or needless warmth) and better soundstage. I can make bass better to a pretty good degree on my sr60s with an EQ, but I can't do much about the soundstage.

 

So I'm basically wondering what my options are. For those of you with lots of experience trying different headphones, any advice would be wonderful.

 

Thanks!




Edited by Mochan - 6/7/10 at 6:19pm
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I've not heard the D7000 but all reports say they have missing mids, which is quite the opposite of the Grado house sound.

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I've tried the Denon AH-D7000 at the canjam meet. It has the best impact in the sub-bass. The kick drums sounded very round and smooth. I have not tried the models before the D7000.



post #5 of 49

Try Beyer DT770 or DT990 if you are looking for a Grado with more sub-bass and sound stage.  You can also consider a real Grado with such qualities - the PS1000.

 

Denons have smooth somewhat slow bass with a midrange suckout and sweet delicate highs and are the farthest thing from the Grado house sound.


Edited by purrin - 6/7/10 at 6:25pm
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I'll second the DT990. Fits the OP's description to a T. (Haven't heard the DT770.)

post #7 of 49

hhmmm but he's coming from a SR60 and using Turtle Beach Audio Advantage Micro as a source, probably not very powerful, and didn't specify a budget. Personally I'd grab one of those new production run HF-2's... 

post #8 of 49

The DT770 has soudnstage and nice sub bass but it also has rather recessed mids, but its highs are very similar to a Grado's at least. 

 

Anyway yeah if you really want Grado sound with bass and soundstage, just get a Grado that has them... PS1000 as mentioned (have not heard) or check out the MS Pro with distance spacers.

post #9 of 49

True, if he goes the Beyer route he should probably factor in the cost of a Total Bithead or equivalent.

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But the HF2s are not particularly bassy. 

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hhmmm but he's coming from a SR60 and using Turtle Beach Audio Advantage Micro as a source, probably not very powerful, and didn't specify a budget. Personally I'd grab one of those new production run HF-2's... 



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But the HF2s are not particularly bassy. 


 


HF2s have no sub-bass.  The are relatively bassy compared to many other headphones, but not as much as Denons or Beyer DT770/990.


Edited by purrin - 6/7/10 at 6:52pm
post #12 of 49

I would try the Vixen route. Soundstage and bass is definetly improved.

post #13 of 49

AD900

post #14 of 49
Thread Starter 

Thanks for all the advice, and please keep it coming!

 

I didn't mention a price limit just because I wanted to see what options I have. But with that in mind, I would certainly like to keep it reasonable - so something like the ridiculously expensive PS1000 is definitely out.

 

If possible, I'd like to keep the cans under 300 ohms, as that is (believe it or not) still within the TBAAM's ability to properly drive - the thing is far far better than people give it credit for. Under 300 ohms if possible anyway. If not, I'll have to factor in the cost of an amp, or at least a soundcard capable of powering such high impedance headphones.

 

Again, many thanks headfi, and keep up the great suggestions!

post #15 of 49

It may not be terribly easy to find but a Sony CD3000 or one of it's younger siblings could be exactly what you're looking for. I only have the meager CD770 but it has a nice accurate forward sound signature (grado~ish) with adequate bass (think Sennhesier HD580/600) and a huge soundstage to boot, certainly the best I've heard to date.

 

The CD3000 will be clearly leagues better but costs around $500-600 used, other varients include CD770, CD850, CD1000, CD1700 and the Lord of the Universe; R10.

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