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post #226 of 2831

I think popcorn is allowed here Waiting for your further thoughts on them.

 

Seems like the stock tips is fatal...I was going to ask you whether the Atrio tips makes any difference compared to the stock tips. Just wonder with the Shure single flange, do you find any significant change in soundstage and 'dynamic'? In my opinion clarity gets better with some less deep insertion. 


Edited by KLS - 5/10/10 at 9:23am
post #227 of 2831
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Now, I have done a comparison of the Copper and FX700.  To my ears, the Copper is better in the upper half of the spectrum, so some male vocals and female vocals sound better on the Copper to me, and the FX700 lower half is better, tighter bass with more detail and better speed.  The FX700 soundstage width is nice and much bigger with the FX700, but the Copper is more 3D (and with the HUD-MX1 to Rx the Copper space does increase a lot).

 

 



i thought this is the sm3 impressions thread,why are you making comparisons between two different iems?please post these impressions in the right thread and dont derail this thread with unrelated comparison...

post #228 of 2831

^^ Hey man, there's only room for one sheriff in this town.... 

post #229 of 2831
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Got them today... I sure have the same impressions with them right out of the box - they're just muddy, veiled, and lacking all treble. I immediately tried Atrio double flange silicon tips instead of the Complys (which I don't really like in any shape or size, with any phone). The Atrio tips made it a bit better, but not much. Now I'm trying single flange Shure silicon tips with less deep insertion, and they sound better.

 


They sure work well with the Clip+ too. It's usually a somewhat hissy player with those insane-specced phones with high sensitivity, but the SM3 don't hiss much and perform similarly well as on the headphone-out my AudioFire4.
 


Glad to get another owners thoughts.  No surprise at your initial thoughts, looking forward to additional thoughts after you find some tips that work for you and your brain burns in ;)
 

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i thought this is the sm3 impressions thread,why are you making comparisons between two different iems?please post these impressions in the right thread and dont derail this thread with unrelated comparison...


Ha ha, your post was funny.  I tried to sneak that in between my SM3 reply as to not derail this thread, even though those thoughts should be in another thread (but were put there for explaining the level of the competition).  Shame on me, as it did derail the thread ;)

post #230 of 2831

Ok, I need to buy some different tips now so that I don't get dissapointed with SM3 out of the box. Wait, never mind, I got a pair of Shure olives and yellow foams lying around and also a pair of large grey Shure silicones which don't fit my ears perfectly, but good enough to test IEMs out. So I am all set I guess. Can't wait to receive mine. :D


Edited by Pianist - 5/10/10 at 1:20pm
post #231 of 2831

You know, I should have labelled the SM2 as well-made professional monitor. It is, but the market is poorlly represented by plastic and glue. I will make that change now. Against others such as the CK10 or CK100, it is pretty iffy.

post #232 of 2831

Hey shigzeo, how's the clarity on the SM3s to your ears? average_joe thinks that lower mids are less clear on SM3 compared to CK10. What do you think? I owned Q-jays and those had great clarity and definition in the lower mids. How does SM3 stack up? Do you ever find it lacking in clarity or is it always adequate?


Edited by Pianist - 5/10/10 at 1:33pm
post #233 of 2831

The problem for me is that the CK10 was last in my hands... more than a year ago. I remember it very clearly, but to ask me to say which is better for something when I cannot ABX them... that is hard. 

 

It is adequately clear. But I wouldn't call it sparkly, or on a dime, or anything. Maybe it is clear, but its mellowness retards the pace. I find it very adequate for everything - love that it can be driven pretty clearly from any reasonable source. 

 

I am most impressed by its bass and midrange, but not necessarily clarity. More like poignance. 

post #234 of 2831

I always enjoy reading your impression, shigzeo. Your analogy, metaphor and descriptions are always mind boggling and interesting, or should I say, poised?

 

Anyway, could you please elaborate on the 'poignance'? I checked the meaning out, and it can have negative meanings in certain context. On webster merriam website, 'poignant' can mean painfully affecting one's feelings, or it can also mean deeply affecting. Or 'a pleasurably stimulating'...

post #235 of 2831

How does it fit in the ear? Is it comfortable?

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How does it fit in the ear? Is it comfortable?


If you look back a few pages, I believe Joe, Shigzeo and some other users have voiced their opinion on the SM3. According to them, it is very comfortable.

post #237 of 2831
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If you look back a few pages, I believe Joe, Shigzeo and some other users have voiced their opinion on the SM3. According to them, it is very comfortable.


Ah, thanks you. I'm going over the thread right now, I'm on the 8th page.
This is way out of my price range but this looks like the best thing ever.

What is the warranty like (you know, spending such money for this you would want to know)?

Plus, how would you compare this to copper monster turbine?
Or Fischer Audio DBA-02?


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post #238 of 2831
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Ah, thanks you. I'm going over the thread right now, I'm on the 8th page.
This is way out of my price range but this looks like the best thing ever.

What is the warranty like (you know, spending such money for this you would want to know)?

Plus, how would you compare this to copper monster turbine?
Or Fischer Audio DBA-02?


Well, as far as I know, no one with SM3 has the DBA yet, but I think there are some users who intend to get it. I am waiting wistfully for the price to come even lower, before considering it. And regarding the comparions with the Copper, if you look back a few post up this page or last page, there should be some sort of impression. 


Edited by koonhua90 - 5/10/10 at 3:36pm
post #239 of 2831
NVM.
Edited by midoo1990 - 5/10/10 at 4:51pm
post #240 of 2831
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Well, as far as I know, no one with SM3 has the DBA yet, but I think there are some users who intend to get it. I am waiting wistfully for the price to come even lower, before considering it. And regarding the comparions with the Copper, if you look back a few post up this page or last page, there should be some sort of impression. 


I think I'm either going to choose Monster Turbines Copper (but I still haven't found the post where they compare them in a detailed manner) or SM3's.

Since Monster Turbine Coppers are supposedly better than IE8's and what's really attractive about them is the "Lifetime warranty". I don't trust all these other earphones without any warranty.

And I really want to know about the warranty on the SM3.

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