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Review of the Audio-gd DAC-19 DSP & C2 amp - The ACSS connection
Apr 25, 2010 at 6:52 AM Post #76 of 991
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Originally Posted by sachu /img/forum/go_quote.gif
umm no regal..you can't swap the digital filter on the DAC 2.7. However, On the DAC 2.6 you can swap between the DF1704 and PMD100. Preferred the PMD100 vastly there. I then bought a separate Assemblage DAC 2.7 which had the PMD200 in it.


The PMD200 is SMD but they used to make adapters to where you can plug them in place of the PMD100. A few people did that to turn their 2.6 into 2.7's.
 
Apr 25, 2010 at 6:57 AM Post #77 of 991
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Originally Posted by regal /img/forum/go_quote.gif
The PMD200 is SMD but they used to make adapters to where you can plug them in place of the PMD100. A few people did that to turn their 2.6 into 2.7's.


Hmm..haven't heard of that. Mine is soldered down. Anyways, I think we have digressed far enough from the OP's main focus. Am off to enjoy some tunes before i call it a night. Cheers!
 
Apr 26, 2010 at 2:38 PM Post #78 of 991
Very nice review you've done here slim.a. Pleasing to read and very comprehensive.
I'm now definitely considering to buy this couple in the next few weeks or months when my wallet will allow it.
 
Apr 27, 2010 at 5:10 AM Post #79 of 991
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Very nice review you've done here slim.a. Pleasing to read and very comprehensive.
I'm now definitely considering to buy this couple in the next few weeks or months when my wallet will allow it.


I completely agree. By your review it was quickly apparent the DAC 19 DSP is almost exactly what I've wanted in a DAC upgrade. I dropped the 700 USD on it over the weekend, just a week after discovering it.
 
Apr 28, 2010 at 2:29 AM Post #80 of 991
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Originally Posted by regal /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Read this if you refuse to believe Sachu:

Listening Comparison Of Digital Audio Filters


It's not that I don't believe Sachu, I just trust my ears a lot more than I do his
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Peete.
 
Apr 30, 2010 at 5:35 PM Post #81 of 991
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Originally Posted by slim.a /img/forum/go_quote.gif
However, that big soundstage and especially the depth was pretty disturbing at first. In fact, I got used to sounds getting slightly pushed into the foreground in loud passages. The dac19dsp/c2 combination does it differently and everything stays at its place. This gave me at the beginning the impression of a slight deficit in impact. But after listening to it after a few hours, I don’t think I will ever be able to adjust back to the old way that sounded more “compressed” to my ears.


I'm very interested by this assessment, as I find all the time my ears to be compressed until it becomes unpleasant not to say painful when I listen to high volume (not high volume which can cause ear pain, it's not the way I listen to music, I can go high just to the limit before ear pain but almost never to the point it becomes unpleasant).
If the DAC19/C2 prevent this to happen then it's interesting me very much.

Does it feel like the sound is pushed backwards during strong moments and tends to be disturbing and weird or do you feel like it is just the way it is supposed to sound? Because to me the FUN for example is OK in soft and mid loud moments, but during loud moments of a song especially with a lot of instruments in the same time, it is almost always unpleasant and I always think it can be better on this point. I kind of know how it should sound and how better it can be as as a beginning I found my ears a lot less compressed going from my PC sound card to the FUN with the rest of my actual setup. I can't imagine how much better it can be on DAC19/C2 though but I'm very interested in giving it a try to see that.
 
May 2, 2010 at 5:35 PM Post #82 of 991
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I finally got my dac19DSP a few hours ago. First impression, it's a great dac. I don't have enough time to listen to it, so I can't say much about it right now.

But there is a small problem, I requested a bnc version, but it seems they send me a rca version. Is it worth to send it back to change the rca input to bnc input? Since I ordered m2tech hiface bnc + Oyaide DB-510 BNC (sending it to me, not receive yet). I can think of 3 different ways to solve the problem:

1. send it back
2. buy a Oyaide DR-510 RCA
3. buy a BNC to RCA adaptor

The easiest way is to buy a BNC to RCA adaptor, but will it affect the sound quality a lot?

I attached a pic of my dac, I think it's a rca input.


I had both BNC and RCA inputs on the dac19mk3. I found that the BNC was only very slightly better than the RCA.
Using a BNC to RCA adapter brought only a small decrease in sound quality compared to direct BNC. Some people say adaptors sound horrible but that wasn't the case in my experience even with a cheap adaptor I bought from blue jeans cables.


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Originally Posted by Pacha /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I'm very interested by this assessment, as I find all the time my ears to be compressed until it becomes unpleasant not to say painful when I listen to high volume (not high volume which can cause ear pain, it's not the way I listen to music, I can go high just to the limit before ear pain but almost never to the point it becomes unpleasant).
If the DAC19/C2 prevent this to happen then it's interesting me very much.

Does it feel like the sound is pushed backwards during strong moments and tends to be disturbing and weird or do you feel like it is just the way it is supposed to sound? Because to me the FUN for example is OK in soft and mid loud moments, but during loud moments of a song especially with a lot of instruments in the same time, it is almost always unpleasant and I always think it can be better on this point. I kind of know how it should sound and how better it can be as as a beginning I found my ears a lot less compressed going from my PC sound card to the FUN with the rest of my actual setup. I can't imagine how much better it can be on DAC19/C2 though but I'm very interested in giving it a try to see that.


The dac19/c2 sounds like it is supposed to. The Fun (and other equipment as well) rush the instruments and voices into the foreground during loud passages. With the dac19/c2 everything seems to be firmly grounded where it is supposed to be. In fact it was so good with the Sennheiser hd-650 that it was disturbing at first. I never imagined those headphones could have such a good imaging.
 
May 3, 2010 at 2:18 PM Post #83 of 991
Could someone else check too the point when the channel imbalance disappears on C2? I've played normalized pink noise quite a bit and on my unit the levels sound to be equal around/after 8:30 - 8:40 - just a bit too 'far' for many louder albums (or pretty much for the most music that isn't ambient or classical) that I have.
 
May 3, 2010 at 4:02 PM Post #84 of 991
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Originally Posted by slim.a /img/forum/go_quote.gif
The dac19/c2 sounds like it is supposed to. The Fun (and other equipment as well) rush the instruments and voices into the foreground during loud passages. With the dac19/c2 everything seems to be firmly grounded where it is supposed to be. In fact it was so good with the Sennheiser hd-650 that it was disturbing at first. I never imagined those headphones could have such a good imaging.


Well, so I'm to buy the DAC19DSP/C2 combo as soon as my wallet won't be on diet any more. Thank you for the details.
 
May 4, 2010 at 9:19 AM Post #86 of 991
I got an order in for a DAC-19DSP & C2 combo (through AmpCity). I think they will be great with my K601's, but I'm having some doubt about the pot in the C2. I'm rather sensitive about channel imbalance and there seems to be some C2's out there with pot issues. Any input would be appreciated on this. I've looked at the pictures of the C2 innards and the pot seems to be rather small. What make and model is it?
 
May 4, 2010 at 6:58 PM Post #88 of 991
Hi slim.a, I just looked at your pictures and see that there is a tube amp on top of your system. Did you try to pair that amp with DAC-19DSP? Is C-2 much better than your tube amp? I am using miniwatt n3(tube amp) with DAC-19DSP, so I just want to see if there is any reason for me to buy C-2 as well :).
 
May 5, 2010 at 3:43 AM Post #89 of 991
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Originally Posted by pategen /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I got an order in for a DAC-19DSP & C2 combo (through AmpCity). I think they will be great with my K601's, but I'm having some doubt about the pot in the C2. I'm rather sensitive about channel imbalance and there seems to be some C2's out there with pot issues. Any input would be appreciated on this. I've looked at the pictures of the C2 innards and the pot seems to be rather small. What make and model is it?


AFAIK it's the most common Alps blue. Some of them have a little channel imbalance at the very beginning of their movement.
 
May 5, 2010 at 7:30 AM Post #90 of 991
Anybody experimented with the DAC 19 DSP DIP switches?

The flexibility and bypass of the DSP with the PCM1704uk DACs is one of the very desirable combined features that made me quickly decide to jump into purchasing this DAC. I'm sourcing it with an Emprical Audio Off Ramp 3 on a computer server. It's a very high quality, 24 bit low jitter SPDIF source that should fare very well with the DSP bypassed. (Although I haven't gotten that far.) The DAC 19 arrived yesterday and it's been running in my system for about 4 hours as I write this. I've left the DIP switches at default for the time being. I intend to let the system run for at least a week before I begin experimenting.

I barely had it out of the box and the cover removed when I began to imagine how wonderful it would be to have a complete Audio-gd system. This is serious, majestic, beautiful hardware.
 
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