Errr you'd be upgrading amps instead of headphones which is probably gonna cost a whole lot more xD.

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You need to try for yourself.

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The K701/2 are very amp dependent and this is the weakness. So, what part of amp dependent you don't understand?

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now you're blaming my experience.

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because it is a cop out, it is to say that the only way someone can dislike the K701 is if they aren't using them properly. This is clearly not true, but you make this claim all through the forums, and I think it derails a lot of threads, and misleads a lot of people. Someone who wants the B+W speaker sound, for instance, clearly should not buy the K701. (from a recent thread)

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lol, now you're super funny...

1 weakness...

Hehehe...what a cucu monkey, amp dependent....IT IS THE WEAKNESS.

lol, try to connect your hps to any hps output ever made, and see if it's work

1 weakness, which, as I have said over and over, is not fixed by amps/excuses. It appears that you can't do it.

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IT IS FIXED BY AMP...NO AMP, NO SOUND...

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I fear I must correct you, Samson. My statement is not "patently untrue". It would be patently untrue to say that the sun rises in the west and sets in the east. What you mean is, you disagree.

For the rest, I take your point about finding "soul mates" when it comes to sound preferences, but I wonder if most people do that. I suggest most people simply ask what phone will go with their equipment and often neglect even to state their music preferences (absolutely vital) or the kind of sound they're after (as opposed to merely "accurate"). My point is simply that I've heard most of the headphones discussed here, at length in my home, and to me they sounded nothing like the descriptions of their sound I read here. For instance, the Beyer 880 Pro sounded to me like a decent phone heard through an integrated amp with the treble full up--waaaay too bright. If others heard this phone as I heard it, no one would buy it. Yet I sold it on Ebay and the buyer emailed to say he liked it. And posters here often discuss the 880 Pro without even mentioning that it might be just a tad bright. Moving on...I bought an AT AD700, more or less out of curiousity. Wow...I've never heard such a messy, out of control, grainy and coarse sound! Just terrible! Yet...these phones are much admired, apparently. OTOH, I knew the HD595 was my kind of phone the instant I put it on, before it was even burnt in, yet if you believe comments here you'd have to conclude that the 595 is not even up to AD700 standards. Amazing.

Conclusion? Yes, if you can find someone here who seems to have similar taste in sound to yourself, their comments might be useful to you. Otherwise, be wary of posters' enthusiasms as much as their aversions, and for a broader view look outside these forums. The posters on AudioReview and Amazon are not all tin-eared dingbats, as some here would have you believe.

Considering how analytical/aseptic/extremely detailed the K701/702 can be, how about "not musical enough"? It divides each individual sound into its own discrete place rather well. The caveat of this is that it creates an unrealistically large headspace for certain types of music. In other words, it does not provide musical "synthesis" as well as other 'phones. I recall a few people going on about this a while ago in older threads...

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Just noticed that, pp312. I guess the safer way to lead off on that earlier comment of mine is to simply say that "I find your statement untrue". Although I disagree less, now that you have explained further. Thanks for keeping things in check!

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I haven't read those threads, but this is exactly my impression of the 702 (apart from the fact that it's too bright. Gee, so many bright phones--I'll have to get my ears sandbagged). It just doesn't seem all of a piece to me, unlike the HD650 (or 595 for that matter). Everything is dissected, and when I listen to a symphony orchestra in a concert hall, which I do frequently, it doesn't sound like that. A studio phone maybe, but for the enjoyment of music at home? Hmmm....

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I kind of wish that there was an easy way to indicate certain listening preference "personalities", much like the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) that is followed by psychiatrists. Perhaps a "Diagnostic Manual of Listening Preferences" (DMLP). That way we could ID ourselves as into aggressive (Grado)/passive (Sennheiser) sound signatures crossed with soundstages that are restricted (Grado)/expansive (AKG, Sennheiser), etc. Surely this can be done!

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so, in conclusion, you can't then.