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Denon AH-C710 Review Thread

post #1 of 323
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*I will post my review here and encourage others to do so. We can keep this thread as a review and comparison thread like the previous one for the C700/751 and possibly keep the comments in the other thread so the reviews will be more easily found.*

Denon C710 In-Ear Headphones

Denon's latest high quality earphone...

Mine are the black version.


In their case.


The Specs
IMPEDANCE: 16 Ohm
SENSITIVITY: 110dB/mW
MAX POWER INPUT: 250mW
DRIVERS: 11.5mm
CABLE: .7 meter OFC + .8 meter extension included
WEIGHT: 5.6 grams excluding cable
COLORS: Black or silver

The Package

You get a leather-like modular hard case, .8 meter extension cable, cable clip, S/M/L single flange tips, One pair T-400 Comply tips

Build Quality
The C710 have solid build quality in both the earphones and the accessories. The fit and finish is perfect. The housings are metal as well as the plug. The sound tube portion of the earphone is plastic.

The earphones have a smaller footprint in the ear but stick out. They are not the ear filling flush design and thus are not good for lying down with. The angled tube does make them easy to insert and easy to tell right from left.

The cable is thin and modular. 0.7 meter(27") plus 0.8 meter(31") extension. I'm sure the length with or without extension will appeal to some but not others. Being thin and light is good toward comfort and microphonics. The bad result is more tangling. I think that the tangling is the lesser of the evils so I don't mind it. The cable seems fairly sturdy.

Fit
The fit, for me, is quick and easy. They are quite comfy and provide very good isolation for a canalphone. You can get slightly more isolation from the Comply's if you choose.

Sound
The C710 are overall a warm and colored phone with their own distinct presentation. They are large sounding, well balanced, and engaging. Not really the type of phone for those who want flat or accurate.

Bass. The bass is the strongest point of this earphone followed closely by the mids and lastly the treble which is the weakest part of the spectrum. The bass is on the warm side but falls a bit short of the warmth/power of the FX500, IE8's, Atrio's and other bigger bass earphones. The extension goes very low and much of the detail is in the bass range up through the low mids. the bass is quite tight and well defined. Excellent separation and layering of the bass notes again presenting them in it's own distinct way. The speed is good and they handle complex passages well. Impact differences and directional placing of bass notes are well done. Takes a while to develop clarity and tighten up from out of the box. Some of the better and more enjoyable bass regardless of price in a dynamic.

Mids. The mids are also very high quality. Slightly forward mids. not lush but not thin, in the middle. Good for male and female vocals. Never heard any sibilance in the mids. Nice separation of the vocals, again done in the Denon way. Not up front mids but closer than they are far away. Joe's 4-5 rows back is a good description. Good detail and excellent audibility of vocals. Singing/words are more easily audible than other phones, especially dynamic based ones. The most transparent part of the spectrum to my ears.

Treble. The treble is up front and a bit sparkly. The Denon treble sounds different. So, going from one phone to another can be strange. The Denon treble will start to sound "right" if you listen to it for a while and make other phones sound different or "wrong". The most colored part of the spectrum. Those who crave treble accuracy might not be too fond of the Denon treble. It is more colored though still fairly enjoyable. Decently well extended for a dynamic. Comes up short compared to PFE/Triple.fi/ER4/RE0 treble reach. The treble detail is weaker than the bass or mids but still pretty good.

Separation. One of the best features of the C710 is it's separation. Excellent through the range but maybe a slight bit better in the bass and mids. Vocals and bass lines are very distinct and easy to pick out. Very nicely layered in the Denon style. The amount of separation or air around things is in the middle. Not blended closely together nor very far apart.

The Soundstage. One of the larger soundstages. Increases a bit as it opens up with burn in. Good width, height, and depth. The placement within the image is(again) part of the Denon sound/color. Enjoyable as far as I'm concerned. Very subjective as to imaging likes/dislike. hoe much you like the presentation is more up to the individual.

Clarity and Transparency. Clarity is quite good throughout the range. Improves nicely with some burn in.
Transparency, to me, is a window in free of coloring that can make you forget your listening through something and more like listen to the real thing. The transparency is mostly in the mids and dissipates towards the high and low end. The Denon color won't let forget what your listening through, esp. in the treble.

Detail. One of the more detailed dynamics. Not ER4P/S or truly high end detail but quite good. Most of the detail is from the bass up through the mids making them opposite something like the RE0. Maybe take that into account if you have a preference. Detail does appear with more burn-in. Okay out of the box but more detail is revealed when the clarity improves.

Sensitivity. A section on sensitivity since these earphones are quite sensitive. Hiss may be a problem depending on source. Depends on your gear. The sensitivity also affects how bright or boomy these ear phones can be. They seem to become quite bassier and brighter with Sony gear. Synergy is less predictable from source to source. They sound good with everything I have but the sound balance can vary or change with source. I find them quite balanced but sensitive which can accentuate more bass or more brightness with certain gear. They also will be better for low level listening with some gear and not others. When cranked or pushed they may behave well or may become quite bright.
* Help for brightness may be right there in the box with the T-400 Comply's which can tone down brightness*

To Sum It Up
Overall, a very nice entry from Denon. An excellent value for those who can get them for under $100 but a very nice earphone in general. As the impressions come in we should get a clear picture how close they come to the high end dynamics currently available.

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post #2 of 323
Thank you jant71, great review! Your comments are the reason I decided to buy the Denon which is still burning in and changing. I will post my comments/follow-on review when the Denon's are done burning in, but for I agree with just about everything you said.
post #3 of 323
Out of the box, nice fit and finish, very comfy. SQ...ouch! Treble energy is way out of control, obviously need some serious burn-in, but no surprise. Hooking them up now, for 3-4 days minimum. With Amp3, hiss monsters, and out of the Zune, some hiss, but treble is killer no matter which DAP I try, without EQ.
post #4 of 323
im about to buy these, thanks
im getting expedited shipping so ill post my review in a few days

ended up getting these
they cost less than the c751.. hopefully this doesnt mean theyre inferior..
post #5 of 323
OK, haven't had nearly the time I have wanted to critically listen and do some serious comparison with my other IEMs, but wanted to share something that just increased the value of the C710 for me 100 fold.

I just got the Mingo WM2 gold and silver and have been switching between them, the C710, and my IE8 from time to time. The Mingo's were starting to sound very good, but I have trouble finding the sweet spot with the Mingo's, kinda like with my ADDIEM. Anyway, the C710's were sounding pretty bright and starting to sound bad in comparison (I do have a little sinus cold, though).

I looked on the box, in the manual, and in the other thread for how they are supposed to be worn (I assumed cable down). There is one picture of how they fit in the ear at an angle, which kinda looked like they were inserted cable down, but I really can't tell. I could not find any mention in the other thread of cables up or down.

I have been wearing the C710 cable down and decided to try them cable up. Well, much to my surprise, the brightness is gone, the bass seems more prevalent, and the detail is still there, and the stage is about the same. From the get go they were borderline too bright for the AMP3, now they sound very balanced. They also don't stick out as far as cables down, at least in my ears (kinda sleek looking)!

This might be something everyone else knows about, but news to me, and if there are other people that think these are on the bright side, try over the ear, you just may have a new, improved C710! Hope it isn't just my sinus infection!

These things have great bass, clarity, detail, and now more balanced, detailed treble.
post #6 of 323
****
i knew i shouldve waited!
what do you mean the cable up?
post #7 of 323
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Originally Posted by rubberchickenmx View Post
****
i knew i shouldve waited!
what do you mean the cable up?
Waited for what?

Yes, cable up and over the ears. For me (and tstarno6) it tames the treble and makes the sound more balanced. These things have some real good bass and brilliant mids, plus now the treble isn't a liability.
post #8 of 323
cable up is always best
post #9 of 323
well im getting these today, anytime really...
i saw ups in my neighborhood already..
anyways, what do you mean by cable up?
post #10 of 323
Cable up, over the ear; here is a pic of S-Jays worn cable up (as intended). Other way is cable hanging down. I actually find I get a better fit and no microphonics (not that they are a problem with the Denon) with the cable over the ear.

Hope you enjoy!

@ mark - yea, for most of my IEMs I agree!
post #11 of 323
Quote:
Originally Posted by rubberchickenmx View Post
well im getting these today, anytime really...
i saw ups in my neighborhood already..
anyways, what do you mean by cable up?
average_joe answered you. You route the cable up, over and then down behind your ears. I wear all my earphones this way. Virtually eliminates microphonics.
post #12 of 323
For the C710, the cables over the ears (and still putting the right bud in the right ear, left in left) completely changes the insertion angle, dramatically changing the treble energy.
post #13 of 323
changes the treble energy, but in a good way right?

i got no problem with the cable up so its all good
should get it anytime
D:
taking so long
post #14 of 323
Damn, UPS just dropped them off like 30 minutes ago. They sound pretty damn good! A huge improvement from my weak skullcandies.... lol. I played a V0 version of le dragueur - ingrid on my ipod and it sounds so real! The bass is a HUGE improvement, its really nice and makes it come alive.. sounds so real.. Don't really think the treble is bad... can't even notice it. I put them on and I can't hear myself typing or anything.. pretty cool I guess. I took a few pics, I don't have the best camera so the pics are pretty weak
Here it is boxed

Another pic of it boxed

Heres a close up of the phones still in the box


Heres everything that was included

Heres another close up of the phones

Sorry for the pics, they're really blurry.

I thought the box was pretty nice actually. It looks big on the pictures on Denon's site but its actually pretty small!
Anyways, overall I don't regret buying these. Not that beefy of a review but better than nothing.

edit: just tried em on my sound card playing it was a good day - ice cube in FLAC and it sounds so amazing... most beautiful thing ever
post #15 of 323
Glad you like them, how are you wearing them, cable up or down? Yes, a major improvement compared to Skullcandy.
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