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Single Power Audio craftsmanship? What do you think? (photos)

post #1 of 130
7/23/08 at 10:19am
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I received these photos from Mikhail. They are photos of my Single Power Supra-XLR and ES-1 that are currently in his possession. The amps were sent to Single Power for upgrades and these photos are supposed to show some of the parts.

I realize that most of the photos are blurry or of poor quality, but they are what I received from Mikhail.

What do you think?

























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post #2 of 130
7/23/08 at 10:25am
Is this supposed to be a work in progress?

I mean I see a bunch of vCaps and blackgates in there. Not to mention a lot of wiring.
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post #3 of 130
7/23/08 at 10:27am
I'm no EE, but wouldn't all the wires crossing over components & other wire groups create some interference?
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post #4 of 130
7/23/08 at 10:30am
I know that point-to-point cabling are higher regarded than print boards.
But this looks like a mess to me. Cables and components "all over the place".

Just look at this picture:


It might not affect the sound. But what if the amplifier fails and you need to find the faulty component, or even worse find someone to fix it?
Sending it back to Singlepower seems like the only way, with the then 6-12 months wait..
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post #5 of 130
7/23/08 at 10:36am
You should see the inside of my amp!

If it works and it sounds good, that's all that is important. If you start worrying about details like neatness you'll drive yourself crazy.

That said, it would be nice if some companies followed examples like Woo Audio and actually planned out their builds and wiring well.
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post #6 of 130
7/23/08 at 10:40am
Knowing how expensive those two amps are, I would expect nothing but the best.
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post #7 of 130
7/23/08 at 10:43am
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Originally Posted by philodox View Post
You should see the inside of my amp!

If it works and it sounds good, that's all that is important. If you start worrying about details like neatness you'll drive yourself crazy.
<snip>
I disagree, particularly if you want a piece of equipment that will last 20+ years, and is serviceable. Which something like this should. This is a mess. Who cares about the boutique components thrown in haphazardly...
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post #8 of 130
7/23/08 at 10:50am
It looks like the inside of a cary.

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Originally Posted by sonq View Post
I'm no EE, but wouldn't all the wires crossing over components & other wire groups create some interference?
Nope. Bundled wires are FAR more apt to have interference than "randomly crossing" ones.

i personally find it easier to trace a circuit in a nest than one with random wires.
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post #9 of 130
7/23/08 at 10:57am
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Originally Posted by philodox View Post
You should see the inside of my amp!

If it works and it sounds good, that's all that is important. If you start worrying about details like neatness you'll drive yourself crazy.

That said, it would be nice if some companies followed examples like Woo Audio and actually planned out their builds and wiring well.

Companies should follow Darkvoice, they have better wiring then even Woo Audio.
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post #10 of 130
7/23/08 at 11:05am
Isn't SP more of an exception?
Seems that there are more 'clean' looking stuff than not - RSA, HeadAmp, HeadRoom and others' photo looks very different from the ones posted.
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post #11 of 130
7/23/08 at 11:21am
What a rat's nest. Far from what I would expect from specialized, boutique, expensive work.

Why do I have a distinct feeling of deja-vu?
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post #12 of 130
7/23/08 at 11:24am
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wouldn't all the wires crossing over components & other wire groups create some interference?
Usually a builder will try to minimize cross talk and emi with careful wiring layout. Apparently this builder does not.
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post #13 of 130
7/23/08 at 11:29am
What a complete mess. It looks like just moving this amp is asking for a solder joint failure - unless everything is perfectly soldered, which feels unlikely based on the messy layout. I hope I'm wrong and the amp gives you years of joy, but that would make me a bit angry (but I'm an engineer).
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post #14 of 130
7/23/08 at 11:32am
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Originally Posted by nikongod View Post
It looks like the inside of a cary.
x2. I have seen some photos of the inside of a Cary that look at least this disheveled.
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post #15 of 130
7/23/08 at 11:49am
Full of boutique caps, but I can't imagine how he can distinguish which wire to solder? Look like a spider web.
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