REVIEW: iBasso D1, Leckerton Audio UHA-3, and Meier Corda Move compared.
Sep 16, 2007 at 12:41 PM Post #121 of 247
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Originally Posted by Sieg9198 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Ipod or Imod??




yeah, exactly, the story for IMOD does not same as IPOD,
IMOD is the modification of IPOD which bypass the internal IPOD amp, but jz using IPOD internal DAC with some modificaiton, so it is ampless for IPOD, and u need to add in an portable AMP to make it sound.

but the problem arised where Ibasso D1 amp does not sound realy good while it is standalone amp, as a result, the comparison is prety unfair...

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Sep 16, 2007 at 12:49 PM Post #122 of 247
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Originally Posted by Capunk /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Euh... to skylab and other ppl who follow after,

Doesn't mean I'm lazy nor anything,
but pardon me for english isn't my first language and I found difficulties to grasp some meaningful attributes and section that you are intended, for me to re-read. But I'm glad you and some people here would like to clarify my question.

The reason I was asking the question at the first place is,
I'm planning to iMod my 4th Gen iPod and it would be the base of my previous question before, whether it's worth to be paired with D1 or I should invest in another decent amp?

But thank you again for responding, I appreciate it so much.

Regards,


Capunk



i have answered it above, the thing is...the DAC and AMP combination oni make the d1 shine, if u gonna to use it alone. i might think that u can go for MOVE.
 
Sep 16, 2007 at 1:14 PM Post #123 of 247
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Originally Posted by HiFlight /img/forum/go_quote.gif
It is easily improved by swapping the buffers and selecting a different LR.

the OPA2111/LM4562 is great for the amp section as well as the
LTC6241HV/AD8397. It really depends on your preference as to the size and distance of the soundstage.

IMHO, both of these combinations greatly improve the amp section. It now does justice to the quality of the DAC.



I guess I am wondering if these modifications bring the D1 up to a level competitive with say the Move or other good amps when the D1 is used solely as an amp via the analog input.
 
Sep 16, 2007 at 1:16 PM Post #124 of 247
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Originally Posted by bpfiguer /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Thank you for your informative and thoughtful review. Have you ever hear the HR Microstack? How the iBasso D1 compares to the HR Microstack using the USB/optical/coaxial digital input?



The iBasso ain't $600.
 
Sep 16, 2007 at 1:43 PM Post #125 of 247
It's correct that I didn't answer the question about which is better, iMod>Move or USB DAC>D1. This is difficult to answer, although I did attempt it in a post above. I prefer the iMod>Move, since it's a little bit warmer, and lusher, but there are things I prefer about the DAC>D1 sound - it ends up being music dependent which is better. Both provide excellent performance in that regard.

This, I think a potential buyer should examine what they are using it for primarily. If the PC, or a PCDP with digital out, will be the primary source, then the D1 is the clear winner. If the source used will have just analog outputs, the Move is the clear winner. This is really what is important in the review. The only way in which "iMod>Move" vs. "DAC>D1" would be important would be for someone who did not have a source selected already.
 
Sep 16, 2007 at 2:30 PM Post #127 of 247
Again, that isn't a simple question to answer - there are a lot of configurations possible. The D1's DAC driven from a PC via USB playing lossless files is not quite as good sounding as a 5.5G iMod playing lossless files, as heard through the Meier Move. But the differences are small.
 
Sep 16, 2007 at 2:30 PM Post #128 of 247
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Originally Posted by yuheng /img/forum/go_quote.gif
i have answered it above, the thing is...the DAC and AMP combination oni make the d1 shine, if u gonna to use it alone. i might think that u can go for MOVE.


Yes, I found the answer yuheng - but still thanks for your input =)
It's abit disappointing in some way, because I'm about to pair my D1 with iMod.
But I'm afraid the result wouldn't fill my expectation or even shadowed by the D1>USB/Optical configuration.

Again, Thanks Skylab for more clearer updated info
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I might gonna spend more research on next analog amp if I plan to get imod later.

Btw, I really enjoy couple funny moments in this thread
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Sep 16, 2007 at 2:36 PM Post #129 of 247
Ah Curiosity!

Skylab,
Did you try to combine D1(as a DAC) and Move (as a AMP)? since I assume you have it both right now? (or not?) I wonder what is your impression?
 
Sep 16, 2007 at 2:36 PM Post #130 of 247
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Originally Posted by Skylab /img/forum/go_quote.gif
...If the source used will have just analog outputs, the Move is the clear winner...


If you mean stock, no IMO. When modded the difference is night and day! The D1 with the replacement of 3 chips walks all over the Move, not even close. Heck the D1 is IMO also better than the SR71 and the way it is going better than the LaRocco PRII MkII.
 
Sep 16, 2007 at 2:58 PM Post #131 of 247
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Originally Posted by Skylab /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Again, that isn't a simple question to answer - there are a lot of configurations possible. The D1's DAC driven from a PC via USB playing lossless files is not quite as good sounding as a 5.5G iMod playing lossless files, as heard through the Meier Move. But the differences are small.


Thanks, got the answer now.

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Originally Posted by mrarroyo /img/forum/go_quote.gif
If you mean stock, no IMO. When modded the difference is night and day! The D1 with the replacement of 3 chips walks all over the Move, not even close. Heck the D1 is IMO also better than the SR71 and the way it is going better than the LaRocco PRII MkII.


Skylab mentioned he is going to review the D1 in stock form only, as for the opamp rolling part, its left to others to review it.
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Sep 16, 2007 at 5:39 PM Post #132 of 247
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I just changed the NE5532 buffers (2) with the LM4562 chip in the amp section.




Hmmm. I have a couple of LME49720 kicking around. Looks like I am going to have to try them as buffers in the D1.
 
Sep 16, 2007 at 5:42 PM Post #133 of 247
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Originally Posted by dw6928 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
In certain situations and specifically with the Ultrasone 2500, the D1 rivals my desktop combination of Heed/Microdac. That is remarkable for a $230 piece of equipment rivaling a combo costing $800.


Like they always say, "Once you go DAC(k) you never go BACk..."
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