Ultra micro amp heat problem(or not..)
Aug 31, 2009 at 5:02 PM Post #16 of 19
I currently also have my DAC on top of the amp, with both being on top of the DPS. I don't think the amp runs hotter this way since I did have the amp on top and it seems to run at the same temperature.

I'm surprised that the amps don't have cooling vents in them. I guess their tests have shown that the electronics will not overheat in such an enclosure.
 
Aug 31, 2009 at 7:34 PM Post #17 of 19
I just moved the dac off of the amp and set them side by side. Listened for around an hour and gave them the famous palm temperature test.
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Dac was cool and the amp was warm. When stacked, both were very warm. Guess if you do stack them, the amp should be on top.
 
Sep 1, 2009 at 2:44 PM Post #18 of 19
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Originally Posted by Raptor34 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
When stacked, both were very warm. Guess if you do stack them, the amp should be on top.


Meh. I like the amp on the bottom for taste reasons. As long as the amp isn't to hot to comfortable handle it's fine. Hot electronics (to a point) work better. At some point though, lifetime degradation of the electrolytic caps is the first issue that crops up as the amp gets too hot. I recall Joe saying something like every 10 degrees C over about 90F halves the lifetime ... roughly. I seem to recall that at 150F internal temp the degradation half life of electrolytic caps was something like 10 years --- continuous running. So maybe 20 years of heavy use.

Numbers are rough, but we found the Ultra Micro was well below the problem.

BUDA is closer to the line, but I still put the amp on the bottom and the DAC on top. I just make sure to turn off the units when not listening. Yes, it might take a little while for it to warm up (1/2 hour) but extending cap life by a big margin (to maybe 30 years to 1/2 cap life roughly) by not running it all the time seems easily worth it. I don't hear much (if any) difference with the gear cold vs. hot.
 
Sep 1, 2009 at 11:44 PM Post #19 of 19
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Originally Posted by n_maher /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Not likely Vincent, the MAX DAC module runs pretty cool in the Hertsens.


My Ultra MicroDAC is very warm but I can still hold it in hand.....
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