Totl iem that is small?

[cbonao]

Hello can someone please recommend me a good iem that isnt too big as TOtL? I am currently using fatfreq grand maestro but yeah its too big i cant insert it deep enough to my ear i tried tip rolling but it doesnt work. I want to go spend one big time and thats the totl rather than spending multiple times since it will cost nearly the same. I mostly listen to Jpop snd all. Thank you!
For budget im mostly going around 2.5k usd (im only planning to buy used one rsther than Bnew one)

 

[bodegacow]

The Traillii is a pretty reasonable size and one of the best IEMs you can get. 2.5k might be a challenge but not impossible.

 

[dunring]

The Sennheiser IE600 are the smallest ones I've got and the IE900 are even more high end. If you look at the Sonicfoam tip chart on Amazon, the show a chart of the smallest tips and models they fit. That's a good start to research the smallest models.

 

[cbonao]

Oriulos tralili?
Unfortunately ie600 give me headache and it feels like its lacking

Right now i own noble audio katana and fatfreq grand maestro but im only planning on changing the grand maestro since it hurt my ear even after not wearing it. The katana was a good fit it was my outside iem

 

[Charai]

Really depends on what you mean by TOTL. IF you want a bone conductor, none of them are small lol

 

[theveterans]

Hello can someone please recommend me a good iem that isnt too big as TOtL? I am currently using fatfreq grand maestro but yeah its too big i cant insert it deep enough to my ear i tried tip rolling but it doesnt work. I want to go spend one big time and thats the totl rather than spending multiple times since it will cost nearly the same. I mostly listen to Jpop snd all. Thank you!
For budget im mostly going around 2.5k usd (im only planning to buy used one rsther than Bnew one)

PMG APX SE is one of the smallest TOTL IEM I've ever heard