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Feb 11, 2020 at 8:50 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 10
Darksoul

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Just for the sake of conversation and curiosity. I know the Schiit Loki is a tone control with RCA inputs and outputs, but if I have a DAC with XLR out and an AMP with XLR in. Is there any sort of equipment that would allow someone to use tone control in that chain?

Please, this is not about the evil or virtues of tone control or how anyone having it in their chain is a heretic, criminal, stupid or whatever. I'm just curious if there's something like it. The closest thing I've found is the Cello Pallete Preamplifier, but that thing costs like USD20k and completely beyond me. Maybe some sort of speaker preamp or something?
 
Feb 12, 2020 at 12:34 AM Post #2 of 10
Feb 12, 2020 at 10:27 AM Post #3 of 10
Hmm thank you for the reply. Haha, the equipment has one less zero now. With some stretching it's now within reach, now I know how to look for equipment like this. I'll use a slow day at work to google some more stuff like this. Once again, thank you.
 
Feb 12, 2020 at 10:38 AM Post #4 of 10
Darksoul said:
Just for the sake of conversation and curiosity. I know the Schiit Loki is a tone control with RCA inputs and outputs, but if I have a DAC with XLR out and an AMP with XLR in. Is there any sort of equipment that would allow someone to use tone control in that chain?

Please, this is not about the evil or virtues of tone control or how anyone having it in their chain is a heretic, criminal, stupid or whatever. I'm just curious if there's something like it. The closest thing I've found is the Cello Pallete Preamplifier, but that thing costs like USD20k and completely beyond me. Maybe some sort of speaker preamp or something?
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Use software parametric EQ to just zero in on problematic peaks or use low shelf boost to the low end without introducing peaks or high shelf cut at the top end so you minimize cutting a hole into the range and just peel off that side?
 
Feb 12, 2020 at 11:06 AM Post #5 of 10
ProtegeManiac said:
Use software parametric EQ to just zero in on problematic peaks or use low shelf boost to the low end without introducing peaks or high shelf cut at the top end so you minimize cutting a hole into the range and just peel off that side?
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Here's what I tested for a while before I decided to forego all digital parametric EQ. I was serious in getting the ADI-2 Dac to get all of that on a balanced chain. Alas the project I'm working is getting suspended/postponed so I can't afford to buy high end audio stuff for a while. Another reason I'm looking for physical alternatives, is that I can EQ all of my stuff in one place, besides...knobs!
 
Feb 13, 2020 at 12:21 AM Post #6 of 10
Darksoul said:
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Here's what I tested for a while before I decided to forego all digital parametric EQ. I was serious in getting the ADI-2 Dac to get all of that on a balanced chain. Alas the project I'm working is getting suspended/postponed so I can't afford to buy high end audio stuff for a while. Another reason I'm looking for physical alternatives, is that I can EQ all of my stuff in one place, besides...knobs!
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The thing with knobs though is that for everything other than gain you're going to need a screen to see exactly where you are, like for center freq and Q factor. And if it's all hardware chances are these are fixed points instead of variable. The only devices I know that have a screen and variable figures needs to have an 8ga cable wired to a car battery and one to a window if you use it outside of a car, past that your best bet are really expensive pro stuff...and audio editing has been moving towards Macs away from dedicated hardware.
 
Feb 13, 2020 at 8:29 AM Post #7 of 10
I know...I know. It's a shame really, but the transition into virtual stuff has its purpose. Other thing I found was the the PQ by SPL, it's a monstrosity that will trigger anyone's trypophobia, but it seems to be the be-all end-all.
 
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