The synergy between the e2c's and the Creative Muvo TX is absolutly unbelievable

[Pinny]

About a month ago my friend was going to Israel for a couple months and was frantically searching for a flash player to take with him. Reluctantly I gave him my IAudio 5. Well when it came to buy a new one, I decided that more than a great flash player I really also need a thumbdrive again. So I figured I would try the Muvo TX - it's a flashdrive and it has a 5 band equalizer so it should be alright.

Well I bought it and plugged in the E2c's. My immediate expression was "hmm... this player is a tad bit brighter (~2-3dbs imo) than the Iaudio. Anyhow, I made my standard EQ adjustments and was pretty happy. I kept on playing with it for a while and generally everything worked well.

Then one day I happened upon a set of eq settings where everything clicked so well I literally was stuck with my mouth hanging open for 20 minutes. (The setting is: +3, -1, 0, +1, +2 - taking into account the slightly bright nature of Muvo TX, this was perfect).

I promise you people the balance on this is duplicate of the er4p's. And I don't make my claim without proof. There are 2 tremendous proofs that what I'm saying is right.

1. I haven't felt even the slightest earge to touch the equalizer in two weeks, something I used to do 10 times a day.
2. This is the first time I have logged in to head-fi in 3 weeks. Yes, after a couple years on this forum I have finally found what I'm looking for.

I can't recommend this enough to anyone who wants a great player to accompany their e2c's.

Note: I have been too enthralled by the sound quality and balanace to have to time to test out the players other features so I don't know how well they work. Also I should note that all my comments are made in regards to rock/pop/hip hop/rap music.

 

[Mano]

Nice to read your experience, im just looking for a flash player and i use E2c´s for portables, your comments are great since im torn between an iaudio5 and a muvo tx/fm, was inclined more towards the i5 since it has a bit more battery life and better display.

I was wondering if you could help me know about how the sound quality compares, i know this is subjective, but i live in Perú and there arent any stores here where i can audit portables, much less the ones im looking for, i will be ordering them from U.S.

also how good is the power to feed the E2c´s?, is it enough, barely enough, better than i5 (specs point to the contrary), if you had both and had to choose, which one would you keep?, and is this based only on the E2c´s experience qith them or would that opinion hold with other iems? (planning on buying a better iem in the close future)

Sorry for such requests and feel free to tell me i am an annoying person

im currently using a hi-md unit (low end sony mz-nh600d) for portable listening, dunno if anyone can give me a comparison, and if the sound quality would be better in the flash players mentioned before

 

[Pinny]

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Originally Posted by Mano Nice to read your experience, im just looking for a flash player and i use E2c´s for portables, your comments are great since im torn between an iaudio5 and a muvo tx/fm, was inclined more towards the i5 since it has a bit more battery life and better display. I was wondering if you could help me know about how the sound quality compares, i know this is subjective, but i live in Perú and there arent any stores here where i can audit portables, much less the ones im looking for, i will be ordering them from U.S. also how good is the power to feed the E2c´s?, is it enough, barely enough, better than i5 (specs point to the contrary), if you had both and had to choose, which one would you keep?, and is this based only on the E2c´s experience qith them or would that opinion hold with other iems? (planning on buying a better iem in the close future) Sorry for such requests and feel free to tell me i am an annoying person im currently using a hi-md unit (low end sony mz-nh600d) for portable listening, dunno if anyone can give me a comparison, and if the sound quality would be better in the flash players mentioned before

I actually prefer the sound of the muvo tx fm.

Between the two I would keep the muvo. The reasons: 1. it doubles as a mini usb drive, 2. I like the sound quality better 3. I like the looks better.

However for other people, I would probably recommend the Iaudio 5. The reasons: It has many many more useful features, the sound quality feels a bit more refined (albeit not as perfectly balanced with e2c's as the tx fm), and even the features that tx fm does have, they're implemented better on the iaudio 5. For example, both unit's have mic's but the one on the iaudio 5 is vastly superior.

The iaudio has a more powerful output, but both can easily drive the e2c's to way beyond the painfully loud threshhold. On the Iaudio I generally keep the volume at 18/30, on the tx fm I keep it at 24/40.

 

[Mano]

Thanks Pinny! it seems im on my way to buy the TX/fm (another plus is the $30 price difference)

When you say more refined sound quality on the I5 what do you mean? more detailed or maybe more resolution?

thanks again for taking time to answer my questions!

 

[scorpian007]

I completely agree with you. With my Muvo TX FM/E2c combination the sound quality is unbelievable for a flash player that size, definately the best sound quality I've heard in a flash player, and it's almost as good as my Zen Micro.

 

[kramer5150]

I agree.... thats the same EQ setting I use on my TX 512M with my e2c.

You REALLY want to get the most out of em... feed em with a high current amp

Garrett

 

[Thisp]

Bright nature of the.. What?

Any player that had a 3 dB or more raise over a large treble frequency range wouldn't even make it into beta, much less factory production.. I can understand bad bass(crappy op amps and low impedance headphones are a bad combo), yet this makes no sense.

I'd like to see one blind test, or set of measurements that prove that player "bright", "dark", or whatever else audiophile magicians declare the player.

Sorry if this comes off as arrogance, but these kinds of posts can be very misleading to people who are new to this, who can be taught to believe that some players have twice the treble as others just because of placeabo..

 

[breez]

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Originally Posted by Thisp Bright nature of the.. What? Any player that had a 3 dB or more raise over a large treble frequency range wouldn't even make it into beta, much less factory production.. I can understand bad bass(crappy op amps and low impedance headphones are a bad combo), yet this makes no sense. I'd like to see one blind test, or set of measurements that prove that player "bright", "dark", or whatever else audiophile magicians declare the player. Sorry if this comes off as arrogance, but these kinds of posts can be very misleading to people who are new to this, who can be taught to believe that some players have twice the treble as others just because of placeabo..

I can see your point, but understand that audiophiles exaggerate a lot and differences in bass and especially in mids may transform the sound to something which sounds brighter/darker than the average. When playing with a EQ with my speakers, I noticed that making adjustments in the low midrange had a huge effect on darkness of the sound.

 

[bangraman]

I've found the EQ slightly detrimental to the sound of the TX, and I don't find the sound bright... but rather quite balanced. Having said that, the TX does suffer from an iPod-like bass falloff (not to the same extent though) although I've never found this to be a major problem in listening use. Sound is not as good as many HDD daps, but as a flash player it's good.


It's useful in many situations. I find it an excellent flash player. Basic but does everything I need it to do and is equipped with a built-in USB jack, which to me is what a flash player should be about. Pity about the playback in alphabetical / numeric order only but I suppose it's to be expected from a non-databasing player. Apart from that, I use the V200 / TX on a regular basis, although the TX these days is used more often as a memory key than an audio player.


I think I might have written it elsewhere, but unlike feature-loaded Korean flash players with poor UI's, I find that the TX / V200 just 'doesn't get in my face'.

 

[Pinny]

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Originally Posted by Thisp Bright nature of the.. What? Any player that had a 3 dB or more raise over a large treble frequency range wouldn't even make it into beta, much less factory production.. I can understand bad bass(crappy op amps and low impedance headphones are a bad combo), yet this makes no sense. I'd like to see one blind test, or set of measurements that prove that player "bright", "dark", or whatever else audiophile magicians declare the player. Sorry if this comes off as arrogance, but these kinds of posts can be very misleading to people who are new to this, who can be taught to believe that some players have twice the treble as others just because of placeabo..

Very good point; thanks for pointing it out. I edited my original post.

Just in case, I'll clarify once more what I meant. When I first listened to the tx fm my first thought was: this player is just barely yet noticably brighter (the higher frequencies are louder) than the iaudio 5. If I were too quantify it, I would guesstimate it to be about 2 (mayyyyyyyybe 3) dbs higher.