the one settings that will improve sound quality that people don't know about

Sep 7, 2017 at 5:32 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 23

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its the full-range option in windows vista, 7,8, 10

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if you have a headphone or 2.0 speaker tick the full range

if you have super woofer (2.1 - 5.1 7.1) untick it

it improved the sound for me

btw how can I remove where I am living from my profile

I am also using razer surround software
shall I use full range also in the virtual driver
 
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Sep 7, 2017 at 7:10 AM Post #3 of 23
What headphone are you using? Using effects like that change the music and don't represent the audio very closely to the recording. Some people like more bass, but it's definitely not improving quality by doing that. Perhaps try an EQ!
 
Sep 7, 2017 at 7:54 AM Post #4 of 23
What headphone are you using? Using effects like that change the music and don't represent the audio very closely to the recording. Some people like more bass, but it's definitely not improving quality by doing that. Perhaps try an EQ!

this setting doesn't increase the bass

I read that if you have super woofer you must untick it
if you don't have super woofer or if you have headphone you must tick it

if you don't have super woofer or if you have headphone and you don't tick it, you will not hear low frequency sounds
 
Sep 7, 2017 at 7:57 AM Post #6 of 23
its the full-range option in windows vista, 7,8, 10

SpeakerRange.jpg

I think all this does is allow the subwoofer output to work on 2.1. This will also depend on how your speakers are wired. This won't work on laptops that have only 2.0 output without an external soundcard (ie some gaming laptops will benefit from this) and on 2.1 speakers that don't have a dedicated x.1 subwoofer input separate from the L-R. Those who have soundcards or use decent on-board might not have this work if those will totally take over all sound controls.


if you have a headphone speaker tick the full range

If Windows defaults to using surround this helps because now it sends a fullrange output through the F+R output port. I tried it on my laptop with headphones and speakers on the USB DAC, neither had any difference.


if you have super woofer untick it

Errrr...that depends on how you define "super woofer." Are you referring to a large full range driver with long excusrion surrounds or what?

What's more common is a supertweeter, ie, something designed to only play the highest frequencies. Woofers play low frequencies so "super" would refer to some kind of performance metric (whatever a super woofer is), not the range it plays.


I am also using razer surround software
shall I use full range also in the virtual driver

Why are you running surround simulation for 2ch music?
 
Sep 7, 2017 at 8:03 AM Post #7 of 23
I am using surround simulation for games

when I tick the option I hear a difference that when Its not ticked

this is a speaker with super woofer

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it means it have 2.1 channels
if it has 5.1 and 7.1 I think it applys also
 
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Sep 7, 2017 at 8:25 AM Post #8 of 23
I am using surround simulation for games

Make sure you disable it for music. AFAIK Razer has an option for it to never work with browsers and other apps, like Spotify.


when I tick the option I hear a difference that when Its not ticked

How are your speakers wired? If you have a dedicated 2.1 wiring then it should be set to satellites. Otherwise then you weren't getting fullrange to the speakers as the computer was automatically applying a high pass filter on the F+R output and applying a low pass Sub half of the C+Sub output port.


this is a speaker with super woofer

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it means it have 2.1 channels


What tells you it has 2channels is that theres a port and driver in the box in the center, ie, it's a subwoofer. Calling it a "super woofer" is a marketing gimmick, the same way Asus and Creative call "High Gain Mode" something like "EXXXtreme (Makes you feel like a) PRO Gamer (if you use this setting) Mode."

Here's something else more worthy of being called the Ubermensch of Subwoofers: the MTX Jackhammer.

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And just like the equipment used by self-proclaimed Ubermensch, it's expensive to produce and is extremely overbuilt, which was why the Tiger and Konigstiger were just having T-34's and Shermans swarming around them and shooting them from behind.



if it has 5.1 and 7.1 I think it applys also

Not any different from how Razer Surround plays the six channels of a 5.1 programme through two physical channels, except it works more effectively on headphones.
 
Sep 7, 2017 at 11:00 AM Post #10 of 23
Yea using any of the windows sound modifications for music is a garbage idea really. If your headphones can't reproduce low frequencies then get better headphones :p If you want your music to sound the way it was intended, don't mess with these settings. They're for speakers anyway. Better to bypass all that crap anyway and use WASAPI or ASIO
 
Sep 7, 2017 at 7:42 PM Post #11 of 23
Pretty much any member here can tell you this claim is not true.

see this
Make sure it's set to full-range or it'll will cut off your low end frequencies. The option is there for small satellite speakers that cannot handle the entire frequency range without sounding muffled. If you had a subwoofer it should redirect the cutoff-ed audio to the subwoofer. Headphones are full-range devices, they have to be.

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/windows-7-audio-settings-question.534046/
 
Sep 7, 2017 at 7:58 PM Post #12 of 23

It's incorrect. I have never used that setting. I use bit-perfect output in my player, which sends an exact copy of the file data to my DAC. (That's what most audiophiles do.) I can reproduce any low frequency with headphones. And the only limitation with speakers is the frequency at which they begin to roll-off. (35 Hz in my case.) Even then, you can bring out more of the low-end with EQ.
 
Sep 7, 2017 at 8:09 PM Post #13 of 23
It's incorrect. I have never used that setting. I use bit-perfect output in my player, which sends an exact copy of the file data to my DAC. (That's what most audiophiles do.) I can reproduce any low frequency with headphones. And the only limitation with speakers is the frequency at which they begin to roll-off. (35 Hz in my case.) Even then, you can bring out more of the low-end with EQ.

why then I am hearing a deference when enabling it
 
Sep 7, 2017 at 8:12 PM Post #15 of 23
why then I am hearing a deference when enabling it
You ARE hearing a difference. It's just not a good one in terms of representing the music correctly. I agree that most audiophiles will strive to use bitperfect because it represents the music as accurately as it was recorded. That is essentially the definition of "high fidelity" or "HiFi". Adding extra bass to your music by using certain Windows settings is not HiFi because it is changing the music by adding extra effects.
 

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