The Marantz RC5200 Remote

Jul 9, 2006 at 4:46 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 8

Mercuttio

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So, Harvey electronics in NYC is having a massive demo sale right now. Massive.

www.harveyonline.com if you haven't checked it out yet...

I happened to pop on the Harvey page on the 7th when the sale started, and found something kind of interesting. In their ABC store, they had a demo unit of a Marantz RC5200 remote for $100. Checking around online, they seem to sell between $300 and $500 new, so I figured why not?

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Well, I've been messing around with it for a day or so. It's really quite the interesting little device.

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Essentially it feels like a sort of "chunky" palm pilot... but quite a bit more sturdy. The remote is large in your hand but feels like an item of quality, I guess you could say. It features a large touch screen that looks identical to that of an early generation Palm Pilot as well. It lights up when you touch it, and the sensitivity is spot on. For a demo unit, it's in flawless condition. I suspect it sat at a manager's desk and was used only by him to control the various setups at Harvey's store; no scratches, only one little ding just under the "Marantz" Logo. A cover for a port on the side is missing, but I should be able to get a replacement from Marantz pretty easily for a buck or two if I decide to.

And what does it do? Well, it's every remote control you have ever owned, completely customizable down to each detail of each menu. Mine's missing the computer cable (I'll also probably order this from Marantz), but with it you can set the remote up in any way you like... even changing the appearance of the menus if you have some artistic skill. The manual contained an example of one custom menu set that looked like the Star Trek TNG computer menus. Pretty slick.

For now, I have it set up by allowing it to "learn" the IR signals from the various remotes in my apartment. Every soft (screen) and hard button on the unit (volume and channel included, if you're so inclined) can be set to any IR signal you want for any device. Rename them if you want, put on new buttons, etc. Flip to a different device with your thumb on the touch screen, and every button (hard and soft) will change to whatever you have it set for on that menu. It's incredibly intuitive.

The whole thing rests in a big charging base when not in action. It too has a nice heft, and won't skid on any surface. Neat.

As for downsides: it works with every remote except the Xbox 360 remote. There's something about that remote that is "odd" for some reason. It's doing more than just a standard IR signal... I can use the "open / close" button on the Xbox remote I have to open and close the tray, but the same IR signal in the Marantz only opens the tray and will not close it. All other devices worked without a hitch, and I plan to give old MS a call on Monday to see if there's some reason for this. It might be fixable... or Marantz's website may have a code for that remote as well. Apparently they keep a large database of remotes online. The only other downside is the slight noise that it makes when the screen light is on. You can hear a very small electronic "buzz" when you place your ear up against the screen... the buzz is related to the backlight and dissapears once you stop touching the screen for more than 5 seconds.

So... what am I gonna do with this thing? It's pretty damned slick. Once I figure out the Xbox bit, it will control every device in my house. However, it's definitely made for serious Home Theatre buffs. People who have a great many more remotes than me... it's overkill for what I've got here. For its resale value, I could get a pair of 325i or MS2i, so I dunno.

Interesting stuff though?
 
Jul 9, 2006 at 5:01 AM Post #2 of 8
That is a neat piece of equipment! I've a old Sony remote and its LCD makes a buzzing sound when its lit up too. Take care of the LCD. Keep it away from too much dust and shock. Mine failed after 1.5-2 years.
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You should try the macro function. (Is it called marco?) It is like a chain reaction thing. Pretty cool.
 
Jul 9, 2006 at 2:22 PM Post #3 of 8
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Originally Posted by afbug
That is a neat piece of equipment! I've a old Sony remote and its LCD makes a buzzing sound when its lit up too. Take care of the LCD. Keep it away from too much dust and shock. Mine failed after 1.5-2 years.
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You should try the macro function. (Is it called marco?) It is like a chain reaction thing. Pretty cool.



Yeah, I need to figure that out next. The macro system is pretty extensive... it'll definitely take a bit of time to program.

The dream is for someone to be able to hit "play a game" or "watch a movie" and all the right stuff will power on and get ready with the best settings...
 
Jul 9, 2006 at 6:58 PM Post #4 of 8
I've had a couple of Prontos and they were really fun, you can spend days/weeks/months customizing it to do everything under the sun. You can get pretty creative and do some very interesting screens and configurations.

But I've gone back to a hard buttoned remote. Right now I prefer Logitech Harmony remotes, they are easier to set up and the Smart State/Activity based paradigm is the way to go. I don't have the time or inclincation to customize my remote and just need it to work and be friendly for my wife to use.

Also, I found the Harmony remotes just support a wider range of devices. My original Prontos had problems with some devices, they just could not send the codes properly for things like Microsoft Media Center. In Media Center, it flips a particular bit every time a key is pressed again. Maybe this is the same problem you are having.
 
Jul 9, 2006 at 7:29 PM Post #5 of 8
Yeah, I'm really thinking I'd like to sell it. It's just so much overkill for what I've got... and there's a Harmony remote made specially for the Xbox360. I can see someone with a huge HT setup finding this thing indespensible though. I just don't have enough stuff for it to make sense.

I think I'll put it up for sale in the FS/FT forum, maybe I'll get lucky and snag a MS2i or 325i in trade.
 
Jul 10, 2006 at 3:22 AM Post #6 of 8
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Originally Posted by Mercuttio
Yeah, I'm really thinking I'd like to sell it. It's just so much overkill for what I've got... and there's a Harmony remote made specially for the Xbox360. I can see someone with a huge HT setup finding this thing indespensible though. I just don't have enough stuff for it to make sense.


I have a hugely complicated HT setup, and the Harmony is more than capable of controlling it, but not everybody is a fan of Harmonys...so I'm sure you'll have no problem selling it, maybe even at a profit.

Harmony's can be had very inexpensively and they can do everything most people need.
 
Jul 10, 2006 at 3:33 AM Post #7 of 8
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Originally Posted by warpdriver
I have a hugely complicated HT setup, and the Harmony is more than capable of controlling it, but not everybody is a fan of Harmonys...so I'm sure you'll have no problem selling it, maybe even at a profit.

Harmony's can be had very inexpensively and they can do everything most people need.



I just picked one up from futureshop for $99, it's the 520. It can do everything, even my logitech speakers and sateille radio. Very impressive, and a great remote imho. The one thing you might want to consider it that 6xx harmony (don't remember the model) tigerdirect is selling in Canada very cheap, so maybe the american site has it cheap too.
 
Jul 10, 2006 at 4:35 AM Post #8 of 8
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Originally Posted by warpdriver
I have a hugely complicated HT setup, and the Harmony is more than capable of controlling it, but not everybody is a fan of Harmonys...so I'm sure you'll have no problem selling it, maybe even at a profit.

Harmony's can be had very inexpensively and they can do everything most people need.



I've figured out the Xbox360. The official remote seems to "know" when the system is on or the disc tray is open; therefore it sends out an entirely DIFFERENT IR signal. I've tricked it into revealing these secrets, and now the Marantz works like a dream with it. Seems a little silly to use one button for on and one for off, but hey, it's not like I have any shortage of buttons on the thing.

Oh, wait, 10 minutes later, and the "Off On" buttons on the Xbox360 have REVERSED IR SIGNALS. The "Open Close" has done the same. Crazy. The Xbox really doesn't want to have anything other than official MS stuff controlling it.

Anyhoo, I did update the sale page. I think what I'd love to do is trade the remote and get an HD580, or SR225 as some kind of even trade... or an MS2i or 325i. At this point, I'd love to have a nice mid-fi headphone in my lineup that is open and usable this fall when I'm stuck in a computer lab again.
 

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