Schiit Fulla vs Fiio E10K

[Gia Bao]

I want to know:
 
-which of these item improve sennheiser hd 598 ALOTS?
 
-Which of these is best for the price you pay?
 
-And others features that make these stand out the most?
 
-Finally, if u guys have time, can u give me like a conclusion and maybe some others DAC/AMP combo that will/may fit better when going with A SENNHEISER HD 598?? (NOTE : Need to be under 120$

 

[cel4145]

Either the E10K or the Fulla would work well with the HD598.

If you want to learn more about them individually, read these two threads:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/726304/the-fiio-e10k-all-new-dac-and-amp-stages
http://www.head-fi.org/t/737642/fulla-by-schiit-news-photos-thoughts-impressions-etc

 

[PurpleAngel]

  -Which of these item improve Sennheiser HD 598 ALOTS?
-Which of these is best for the price you pay?
-And others features that make these stand out the most?
-Finally, if u guys have time, can u give me like a conclusion and maybe some others DAC/AMP combo that will/may fit better when going with A SENNHEISER HD 598?? (NOTE : Need to be under 120$

 
Can we assume this is for a computer? (PC or Mac or desktop or laptop).
Is this for just music? or gaming? or movies?

 

[Gia Bao]

   
Can we assume this is for a computer? (PC or Mac or desktop or laptop).
Is this for just music? or gaming? or movies?

For Music
For Laptop and portable device like iphone mainly

 

[Gia Bao]

Either the E10K or the Fulla would work well with the HD598.

If you want to learn more about them individually, read these two threads:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/726304/the-fiio-e10k-all-new-dac-and-amp-stages
http://www.head-fi.org/t/737642/fulla-by-schiit-news-photos-thoughts-impressions-etc

So overall, the sound quality from the Schiit Fulla will be better compared to e10K??

 

[cel4145]

So overall, the sound quality from the Schiit Fulla will be better compared to e10K??

I didn't say that.

 

[Gia Bao]

I didn't say that.

On amazon, the schiit fulla slightly cost more than e10k, so I really want to know which will slightly better??

 

[billybob_jcv]

The Fulla can deliver more power, but the E10K has more features, such as line-out & digital out that might be useful if you plan to buy more gear later.

Either will work fine with the Sennheisers. I don't think you will hear much difference between them.

 

[Gia Bao]

The Fulla can deliver more power, but the E10K has more features, such as line-out & digital out that might be useful if you plan to buy more gear later.

Either will work fine with the Sennheisers. I don't think you will hear much difference between them.

 
@billybob_jcv So the hd 598 will sound much better when compared with the onboard vs the Schiit Fulla? =)) ALmost like a day and night difference?

 

[Transmaniacon]

Why don't you just order one and see for yourself?  Schiit has a 15 day money back guarantee.

 

[money4me247]

here you go: http://www.head-fi.org/t/759690/torn-on-whether-to-get-an-amp-dac-or-soundcard/30#post_11445551
 

Spoiler: technical spec comparison between fulla v e10k

  Full spec break-down below. Red is differences. Blue is additional features that the E10K has or additional technical specifications/details that the Fulla provides.
 
useful reference link on how to properly measure performance: http://www.rane.com/note145.html
 
E10K
Dac Chip: PCM5102 with a linear internal filter
USB Receiver: TE7022 USB receiver
Handles PCM Files up to 24-bit/96 kHz
Frequency Response: 20Hz-20Khz
 
Amplifier Specs:
Output stage:: opamp LMH6643
Output Amplitude: 200 mW (32 Ω/THD+N＜1%)**
**Not specified if this measurement is continuous average power derived from RMS, can be peak power (maximum power observed over time) which may not be an accurate indicator for real-world performance
MAX output voltage: 7.39 Vp-p
MAX output current: 81.6 mA

THD: ＜0.006% (1 kHz) [did not specify frequency range test was done at or level]
IMD: not specified
S/N Ratio: ≥108 dB
Crosstalk: ≥70 dB (1 kHz)
Output Impedance: ＜1.04 Ω
Channel imbalance: ＜0.4 dB
Gain: 1.6 dB (GAIN=L); 8.8 dB (GAIN=H); [Selectable Low/High Gain feature]
 
Other: 

1. ALPS Potentiometer Volume Control
2. Micro USB Connector; Bus Powered
3. Front-Panel 1/8" Headphone Output; Coaxial Digital Output
4. Selectable Bass Boost; 
5. Dimensions: 19.1 mm×80 mm×21 mm
6. Weight: 78 g (2.75 oz) [lighter]
7. 1-year limited warranty

 
Schiit Fulla
Dac Chip: AKM AK4396 with Analog Devices ADA4610-based filter stage
USB Receiver: C-Media CM6631A
Bit Depth and Sample Rates Supported: 16/44.1 to 24/96, including 24/88.2
Frequency Response: 20Hz-20Khz, -0.1db, 2Hz-200KHz, -3dB
 
Amp Specs:
Output stage: TI LMH6643 high-current rail-to-rail amplifier
 
Maximum Power:
16 ohms: 250mW RMS per channel
32 ohms: 200mW RMS per channel***
50 ohms: 175mW RMS per channel
300 ohms: 40mW RMS per channel
***[Complete power ratings in continuous average power ratings derived from RMS at each output impedance]
 
THD: <0.004%, 20Hz-20KHz, at 1V RMS
IMD: <0.005%, CCIR
SNR: >101db, A-weighted, referenced to 1V RMS
Crosstalk: >-67dB, 20 Hz-20KHz
Output Impedance: Less than 0.4 ohms [lower output impedance is better]
Gain: 1.5 (3.5db)
 
Other:

1. Analog Volume Potentiometer
2. Headphone Output Size: 1/8"
3. Power Supply: Via USB, with +/- 5V rails via high-current negative rail generator with inductor filtering and local regulation
4. Power Consumption: 0.8W typical
5. Size: 2.5 x 1.2 x 0.45”
6. Weight: 3 oz (85 grams)
7. 1-year limited warranty
8. Made in the USA

 

[size=1em]Personal Summary of Differences: Basically, the E10k has Coaxial Digital Output, Selectable Bass Boost, and Selectable Low/High Gain features over the Schiit Fulla. Choose E10K if those three features or the small difference in price is important to you. The Fulla provides a better and more comprehensive spec sheet on its performance. They use different dac chips and usb receivers, but people say that implementation is the key and it is hard to judge simply based on model. Hard to judge the real-world performance differences between specs, but I personally would feel more confident about Fulla's measurements and performance if doing a blind buy.[/size]
 

 

[cel4145]

  So the hd 598 will sound much better when compared with the onboard vs the Schiit Fulla? =)) ALmost like a day and night difference?

No one can tell you that because

(a) Every computer make/models differ greatly in audio quality. Some computers, the difference will be greater than others.
(b) A "night and day" difference is very subjective. One person listening to the same setup might think so; another might not.

 

[billybob_jcv]

If you expect "night & day differences", you are setting yourself up for disappointment no matter what audio product you buy.

 

[money4me247]

+1 +2 at the above two posts.