RGC-24 Ground Conditioner - lovers thread

[Patrick82]

I'm so in love. Every component I plug it into I fall in love with the sound. It gets silky smooth with more low-level detail and clarity. It's like when you shake the RGC-24 jar and hear the sound of the small grains of sand, that's exactly how the transients become in the music. The shaking jar signature transforms into the music! It's the best tweak in audio!!

I have discovered that 10 per component is good enough. But the more the better!!

 

[shaizada]

Here we go again

The king of tweaks is back.

Acoustic Revive products are very well received actually. I've been itching to try this tweak myself as I can easily do so on my source (has that external grounding connection).

Did I read that right? You have about 10 of these for some component? !?!!??

This is going to be funny...let's see some pictures

 

[Patrick82]

Here's an old thread I made about this tweak: RGC-24 Ground Conditioner - crazy bass! - JREF Forum

 

[shaizada]

Patrick... you're definitely a piece of work you know! I don't know anyone who would do some of the things you do.

If you ever wanna sell one of the 10, message me. I might try them out.

 

[Patrick82]

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Originally Posted by shaizada /img/forum/go_quote.gif Patrick... you're definitely a piece of work you know! I don't know anyone who would do some of the things you do. If you ever wanna sell one of the 10, message me. I might try them out.

How about a group buy? I want 100 of these...They will probably give 50% discount. Anyone else interested?

 

[shaizada]

I'm definitely in on the group buy if you organize one.

 

[Patrick82]

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Originally Posted by shaizada /img/forum/go_quote.gif Did I read that right? You have about 10 of these for some component? !?!!?

Yes, for my dCS DAC I used 10 and for my dCS transport I used 1, it was the optimal configuration after months of experimenting. Using 9 for DAC and 2 for transport gave worse sound. Using all 11 for DAC gave a similar reduction of quality. But 10 for DAC and 1 for transport gave magical sound! The reason for this is that the ground noise is drawn through the electrical cables...

I have also tried this tweak for my computer which uses optical connection. I found that the more the better! I have discovered that once you go past half a dozen RGC-24, you get better sound from optical connection because it sounds very clean. There is jitter from Toslink which cuts off the low-level details, but the extra cleanliness compensates for it which makes it better overall. Using a Firewire transport gives a new world of low-level detail, but there is an added harshness added on top of the music which makes the transients sharper and more emphasized (illusion of surface detail), the extra harshness matches well when pairing it with muddy components, but when not using muddy components you get an overkill of low-level detail (the listening environment needs to be very quiet to benefit), and fatiguing harshness. I will refuse to buy a transport if it doesn't have optical connection, music needs to be clean and free from added noise. RGC-24 Ground Conditioner helps with that.

It's like when you wear glasses in a sandstorm, RGC-24 is like a vacuum cleaner which sucks in the sand before it reaches your glasses, the end result is clean sight! Without the RGC-24 the sand would eventually build up on the lenses and when it starts raining it gets too messy. RGC-24 is the way to go!

 

[AudioCats]

Does any body know how the ground conditioner works?

There must be some kind of theory behind it.

 

[Patrick82]

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Originally Posted by AudioCats /img/forum/go_quote.gif Does any body know how the ground conditioner works? There must be some kind of theory behind it.

It looks like crushed with hammer Tourmaline, and when I shake the jar, it sounds like it too!


"In chinese, tourmaline is called "lightning or electric" stone, and it's one of the most potent source of negative ions that can come from a gemstone." link

 

[Alcibiades]

Now that link is interesting.

 

[Orcin]

After looking at these pics, I'm going to stick with my pedestrian sound quality.

 

[shaizada]

I find the Japanese form of simplistic and nature oriented execution of products very fascinating. This seems especially true in the higher end of their audio world.

If you look at Furutech, Acoustic Revive, Yamamoto, Leben etc., you will notice very simple and beautiful design philosophies behind the products. Whether it be the use of wood, stones or natural products it’s easy to notice superb engineering combined with a more passive approach to designing audio products.

Personally, I have great respect for these Japanese manufacturers as it seems to me that they have gone past the electronic whiz bang mentality and matured into a more sophisticated listening mentality through the choice of raw materials, electronics and overall engineering.

Mother earth already provides a very natural basis of "sound" per se. It is readily available all around us. I feel it’s just us as human beings that get caught up in this pursuit of technological progression that we have far removed ourselves from the massive knowledge hidden in nature itself.

Just my 0.02 cents.

 

[AudioCats]

wow, the link makes me want to get a big-O water bed, fill it with fine tourmaline powder and sleep in it.

 

[Richter Di]

I love the ground conditioner. I use it with my Corda Symphony. Sonic improvement was really stunning.

 

[Bredin]

So, when will you switch to a battery-powered rig?