New Roon Nucleus One. Is it really a downgrade in disguise ?????

[TDHEAD]

On a related topic, Roon Nucleus One. I currently have a Nucleus with a 1 TB m.2 SSD mounted internally.
I am expecting delivery of the Roon Nucleus One tomorrow. I doing some additional reading I found a couple of potentially disappointing things out I was not expecting since this is their latest hardware offering. I may be missing something but here is what I understand. The Nucleus one does not have tany of the latest chip sets, in fact its chip set is several generation back (Intel Celeron) ???processor.
In addition you can no longer install M.2 SSD like Samsung Evos . Rather it only houses a 2.5 SATA drive . The Samsung 870 QVO I purchased has read/write speeds of 560mb/s??? which is light years slower than the 970 EVO M.@ ssd which is more like 3500mb/s. If I understand this correctly than how could this be improved for the Audiophile community??? Also if that is the case and I am not missing some other architecture improvement than I probably won’t even open the box and just send it back and research Plan B??? Anyone out there have better info?


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[scp2]

Following...as I have been thinking about the Nuc one.

 

[TDHEAD]

Following...as I have been thinking about the Nuc one.

Ok, Update: I think it fair to do a quick response to my original concerns about this. I received my pre-order and immediately hooked it up. So Far, is has been fine. It was simple and quick to hook up, has no lag time going through my Library and it sounds as good as the my original nucleus or (not sure if my mind is playing suggestive tricks?) but actually may sound a bit cleaner?????if that possible. So I don't know what all the feedback and end reviews will be out there as they become more deployed. I can only say that I feel good my fears were most likely unfounded. Get it and check it out for yourself, they do take returns?

 

[scp2]

Thanks for the follow up. It will be my first experience with roon...previous Nucleus was too expensive for me to try on a ...let's see basis. I may ponder and see what else comes up.

 

[VandyMan]

My impression is that the Nucleus One was designed to hit a lower price point than the original Nucleus, not as an upgrade.

I really don't think read/write speed of the drive will make any practical difference. Write speed won't impact playback, of course. And you only need a tiny fraction of that read speed even for playback of 192/24 multichannel.

The CPU is probably also more than fast enough. Check the "Processing Speed" in the "Signal Path" popup. (https://community.roonlabs.com/t/what-is-the-processing-speed-indication-answered/19302) My six year old NUC running Roon ROCK typically shows "8x" even with both a convolution filter and parametric EQ in MUSE. I *think* it has a 2017 2GHz i7.

 

[TDHEAD]

My impression is that the Nucleus One was designed to hit a lower price point than the original Nucleus, not as an upgrade.

I really don't think read/write speed of the drive will make any practical difference. Write speed won't impact playback, of course. And you only need a tiny fraction of that read speed even for playback of 192/24 multichannel.

The CPU is probably also more than fast enough. Check the "Processing Speed" in the "Signal Path" popup. (https://community.roonlabs.com/t/what-is-the-processing-speed-indication-answered/19302) My six year old NUC running Roon ROCK typically shows "8x" even with both a convolution filter and parametric EQ in MUSE. I *think* it has a 2017 2GHz i7.

Thanks, running a few days now with it its basically fine but no real reason to change out my original nucleus as it performs about the same?? So no complaint that the product is not performing just does not really fit my use case under the circumstances. I am looking at Melco as I do want an upgrade from the original .

 

[VandyMan]

I am looking at Melco as I do want an upgrade from the original

I'm curious why you want an upgrade. What is the issue with the original? Not enough storage space?

 

[TDHEAD]

I'm curious why you want an upgrade. What is the issue with the original? Not enough storage space?

Dropping out a bit, slow...

 

[VandyMan]

Dropping out a bit, slow...

With ripped files or only Tidal/Qobuz? Because if it dropouts with Tidal/Qobuz, it is probably not the Nucleus. If it is ripped files, it may well be.

 

[TDHEAD]

With ripped files or only Tidal/Qobuz? Because if it dropouts with Tidal/Qobuz, it is probably not the Nucleus. If it is ripped files, it may well be.

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[VandyMan]

both

Is your end-point wireless? Does sound like you need to replace or repair the Nucleus. Good luck!

 

[TDHEAD]

Is your end-point wireless? Does sound like you need to replace or repair the Nucleus. Good luck!

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