Mastering errors in Dire Straits CD's?

Jul 5, 2004 at 6:19 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 10

rauer

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I've noticed a few audible errors on my Dire Straits CD's. Until now I've thought that they are bad areas on the disc or a flaw in my CDP. Recently I've started to suspect they are in fact mastering errors. The problems I notice are usually some fluctuations of for example vocals from stereo to one channel or from one channel to another.

Here are some examples:

Dire Straits: Brother In Arms
Vertigo 824 499-2
Track #9 1:14

Dire Straits: Love Over Gold
Vertigo 800 088-2
Track #1 3:38

Do your discs have the problems too or is it that my CDP's error correction's failing?

EDIT: typos
 
Jul 5, 2004 at 7:38 PM Post #2 of 10
My Dire Straits CD's also have the problems you describe (among others). They show up on three different players, so I doubt it's your CDP. Scared me the first time I encountered them though.

BW
 
Jul 5, 2004 at 8:04 PM Post #3 of 10
Thanks, BW. I wonder why is it that they are that bad in this way? Never heard (haven't searched for) of remasters, SACD's or DVD-A's of these albums.

EDIT: actually there are remasters of some DS albums, it seems. Couldn't find SACD's or DVD-A's, though.
 
Jul 5, 2004 at 9:37 PM Post #4 of 10
The recent Dire Straits remasters sound great. Haven't noticed any anomolies and I've listened to them a million times.
 
Jul 5, 2004 at 10:03 PM Post #5 of 10
Just listened to my copy of DS' remastered "Brothers In Arms" on Vertigo 824 499-2....track 9 (title track) 1:14....sounds OK to me. What seems to be the problem?

CD played on Sony CDP-K1 (circa 1991) and monitored on Grado SR60.

There's no DVD-A or SACD of anything Dire Straits, but "Brothers In Arms" does come in a XRCD version.
 
Jul 5, 2004 at 11:35 PM Post #6 of 10
i got a copy of the SBM (super bit-mapping) master of Brothers in Arms and damn does it sound truly incredible. i think it was a japanese pressing though, and i don't think it's been released elsewhere. either way, i'd look out for one of those if you really want a great-sounding version.
 
Jul 6, 2004 at 1:55 AM Post #7 of 10
Quote:

Originally Posted by rauer
I've noticed a few audible errors on my Dire Straits CD's. Until now I've thought that they are bad areas on the disc or a flaw in my CDP. Recently I've started to suspect they are in fact mastering errors. The problems I notice are usually some fluctuations of for example vocals from stereo to one channel or from one channel to another.

Here are some examples:

Dire Straits: Brother In Arms
Vertigo 824 499-2
Track #9 1:14



I have a xrcd copy and it sounds fine to me. Let me grab my original copy....(the remastered WB copy)...nope that sounds fine as well. I don't hear anything wrong at the time you gave above, infact, i've listened to both copies countless times and they appear to be flawless.
 
Jul 6, 2004 at 1:57 AM Post #8 of 10
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Originally Posted by grinch
i got a copy of the SBM (super bit-mapping) master of Brothers in Arms and damn does it sound truly incredible. i think it was a japanese pressing though, and i don't think it's been released elsewhere. either way, i'd look out for one of those if you really want a great-sounding version.


I have the same version, its available in the states.
 
Jul 6, 2004 at 4:55 AM Post #9 of 10
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Originally Posted by markl
The recent Dire Straits remasters sound great. Haven't noticed any anomolies and I've listened to them a million times.


My exact experience too, Not to mention the fact that I've listened to the remastered of "Brothers In Arms" on probably 25 different cdp's in just the last year. Up to and including the top of the line Wadia. Not a glitch on any of them.


JC
 
Jul 6, 2004 at 5:28 AM Post #10 of 10
At time 1:14 of track #9 in Brothers in Arms is exactly when Knopfler starts singing the second line of the Brothers in arms song: "Are a home now for me". I didn't perceive anything weird, possibly a minor shift of his voice from the very center of the stereo image very so slightly to the left for a moment. But this is hardly a recording/mastering issue, could be his own face just moving slightly if a stereo microphone was used in the recording maybe? In any case in my recording sounds normal, don't think it's any problem or anything to worry about. If I perceive anything is the voice at the very center between my speakers going a few inches slightly to the left, so nothing like dissapearing from stereo and going to single channel mode at all.
 

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