I HATE Parametric Equalizers

May 22, 2015 at 9:51 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 8

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To make a simple wave-form I could recreate on my phone in 2 seconds, I spent 2 hours trying to get the same shape on my parametric equalizer with a graphic front end. I use EqualizerAPO for windows, and while the parametric equalizer is incredibly exact, it takes forever to do a simple task like cutting short a Db boost, something which would be a simple drag and drop on my iPhone.
 
Is there a Graphic Equalizer that poops out a formula that you can use with a parametric equalizer, or better yet, a graphic eq for Windows? Thanks!
 
May 22, 2015 at 11:14 PM Post #2 of 8
EQ is one of the most overused and abused audio adjustments ever. It's been this way since it was invented. Most people don't realize that EQ affects phase, and thus group delay, as well as frequency.

I have to wonder where you got this EQ curve that you can't reproduce with a parametric. More importantly, is this something you leave set all the time, or do you change it for type of music or song?

This probably sounds argumentative, and I guess it is! :) Complex EQ is rarely "correct", or even good sounding. So I'm trying to drive towards a solution that might actually make you more satisfied with the *sound*.

Brian.
 
May 23, 2015 at 7:35 PM Post #4 of 8
Have you tried this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/peace-equalizer-apo-extension/

Thx, but this is already what I use, its a simple GUI for EqAPO. Parametric EQ's take in all your data to create a waveform you can see in Room EQ. I'm looking for something like on my phone where I can literally drag and drop on the waveform itself rather than input an x dB boost with a Q of y to cancel a z dB dip.
 
@bgentry I guess I have found complex EQ never to be beneficial but that's mostly because I found deviating too much, or even at all depending on your headphone, from the stock sound leads to disaster. With a high quality headphone you can EQ more, but generally the stock sound highlights most of what that headphone does best.
 
May 23, 2015 at 7:42 PM Post #5 of 8
So you are using REW to create your PEQ filters? I'd suggest asking at Home Theater Shack's forum for any tips on doing it more easily: http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/rew-forum/. That's the primary home for REW discussion.
 
May 23, 2015 at 7:56 PM Post #6 of 8
So you are using REW to create your PEQ filters? I'd suggest asking at Home Theater Shack's forum for any tips on doing it more easily: http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/rew-forum/. That's the primary home for REW discussion.

I was doing it based off of trial and error, so I'm not surprised that there's probably much easier ways to do it, thanks!
 
Feb 1, 2016 at 1:16 PM Post #7 of 8
I am kinda having the same question as the OP used to have.
 
While i really like what i can achieve with the Peace Gui for Equalizer APO, i find it crazy tedious to create exactly the graph i want to.
 
For instance:
I would love to equalize my DT770 to sound Flat.
Now i know my perceived FR is not the same as the measured FR of these Headphones.
But i would like to just us the inverted graph of the measured FR as a starting point.
 
So how do i take this:

 
And simply feed its inverted form into Peace GUI?
 
Using the graph knobs gives sketchy results because of the way the quality and filter type one selects makes it impossible
to "freely" adjust the graph. Why is there no "free filter type" option??
Is there an PEACE GUI alternative that has that option?
 
Any advice is appreciated :).
 
Feb 5, 2016 at 6:37 PM Post #8 of 8
You don't want to do that. Headphones that sound correct to our ears do not measure flat. Speakers are different than headphones. If you want to read the nitty gritty details, there's a good bit to read here:

http://www.innerfidelity.com/headphone-measurements-explained

Brian.
 

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