Feanor
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In the end, out of the 7-8 people expected, there where 4 of us at my place (a friend of mine also turned up, who might soon turn to the dark side).
The people: Tamas (a.k.a. Banfi T), Zoltan (a hungarian amp/dac manufacturer), Peter (my friend) and me. Tamas arrived way before the other chap, so we had some time to look into the gear.
The gear: Tamas brought lots of loot: A big denon cd player, a small dvd player that got no playtime at all, his custom DAC, his DIY amp with a passive switchbox as volume control, and two headphones: beyer 880-s (old, 600 ohm version) and akg 501.
Zoltan brought a headamp and a dac that his company makes, and also some real audiophile tweaks : a couple of stabilizing platters, pic’s will come of these. He also brought some fancier IC’s and power cables.
I have a Singlepower Mpx3 amplifier, a senn hd600 and an E-MU soundcard.
First, we popped in a Bjork cd, and I had a listen with the beyers. Man, those phones are nice! They sound powerful and fun. Real nice bottom slam, and a bit of top sparkle. I heard details that the senns dont bring to the front in Hunter and Bachelorette, like some piano hits and stuff like that. Then, I listened with the 501. Ooooooh, nice voice. Not too good extremes, but Bjorks voice is really gripping with these phones. My senns had a more neutral presentation, I could hear the details but they didn’t jump out at me. They do get more gripping at higher sound levels though. A note here: These guys listen at insane volumes! Tamas listens at a higher level, but that’s still bearable. But Zoltan, man, he cranked my amp up to 1 o’clock! I usually listen at 7-8. Tamas also got me to listen to a bass solo with the beyers, man, great stuff. They have very good positioning, I got real startled by a clap from behind me. I did a bass test with the phones, using the Kruder and Dorfmeister remix of Bomb the Bass’s Bug Powder Dust. That track has some real deep bass in it , typical for K&D. First, 880-s: OMG TEH BASS! It had a real nice groove to it. Next, 501: No Bass at all! I could hardly hear it as some dull thuds. While this phone is real good for vocals (and I also liked it on non-bass centered electronica), the lack of bass would keep me from using it as a main phone. 600: again, they are more neutral, they lack the more in your face attitude of the beyers. Not bad, but not outstanding.
As you can see, I really enjoyed the beyers [they where also Peter's favorites].
The amps: too bad Tamas’s amp had a 5 pin xlr connector, so I couldn’t hook the senns up to it. His amp/dac combo sounded real good, especially with the beyers. Nice and upfront. I think he also got a kick from the Mpx-senn combo, but I’ll leave that to him. I listened to my senns from Zoltans setup, which was also nice. I didn’t really listen to the amps all that critically, the phones and D/A converters interested me more.
Tamas’s DAC was good. It sounded better than my EMU, although no direct comparison was made. The separation and details where better. We did a direct comparison with Zoltans DAC and the E-MU, and I was surprised how close they where. The DAC sounded better, but it would not be noticeable on not too well recorded music. So, both DAC’s where good, but Tamas spent some time comparing them head to head, so maybe he’ll have more on that (then again, guess I’m the only neutral observer here
).
We also tried listening without the stabilizing thingies and with, and maybe there was a difference. It was more pronounced when we put them under the DAC, though. Maybe I’ll start cutting tennis balls in half...
Also, Zoltan was nice enough to lend me one of his better quality power cords, I’m listening with it on right now.
Pics to come.
The people: Tamas (a.k.a. Banfi T), Zoltan (a hungarian amp/dac manufacturer), Peter (my friend) and me. Tamas arrived way before the other chap, so we had some time to look into the gear.
The gear: Tamas brought lots of loot: A big denon cd player, a small dvd player that got no playtime at all, his custom DAC, his DIY amp with a passive switchbox as volume control, and two headphones: beyer 880-s (old, 600 ohm version) and akg 501.
Zoltan brought a headamp and a dac that his company makes, and also some real audiophile tweaks : a couple of stabilizing platters, pic’s will come of these. He also brought some fancier IC’s and power cables.
I have a Singlepower Mpx3 amplifier, a senn hd600 and an E-MU soundcard.
First, we popped in a Bjork cd, and I had a listen with the beyers. Man, those phones are nice! They sound powerful and fun. Real nice bottom slam, and a bit of top sparkle. I heard details that the senns dont bring to the front in Hunter and Bachelorette, like some piano hits and stuff like that. Then, I listened with the 501. Ooooooh, nice voice. Not too good extremes, but Bjorks voice is really gripping with these phones. My senns had a more neutral presentation, I could hear the details but they didn’t jump out at me. They do get more gripping at higher sound levels though. A note here: These guys listen at insane volumes! Tamas listens at a higher level, but that’s still bearable. But Zoltan, man, he cranked my amp up to 1 o’clock! I usually listen at 7-8. Tamas also got me to listen to a bass solo with the beyers, man, great stuff. They have very good positioning, I got real startled by a clap from behind me. I did a bass test with the phones, using the Kruder and Dorfmeister remix of Bomb the Bass’s Bug Powder Dust. That track has some real deep bass in it , typical for K&D. First, 880-s: OMG TEH BASS! It had a real nice groove to it. Next, 501: No Bass at all! I could hardly hear it as some dull thuds. While this phone is real good for vocals (and I also liked it on non-bass centered electronica), the lack of bass would keep me from using it as a main phone. 600: again, they are more neutral, they lack the more in your face attitude of the beyers. Not bad, but not outstanding.
As you can see, I really enjoyed the beyers [they where also Peter's favorites].
The amps: too bad Tamas’s amp had a 5 pin xlr connector, so I couldn’t hook the senns up to it. His amp/dac combo sounded real good, especially with the beyers. Nice and upfront. I think he also got a kick from the Mpx-senn combo, but I’ll leave that to him. I listened to my senns from Zoltans setup, which was also nice. I didn’t really listen to the amps all that critically, the phones and D/A converters interested me more.
Tamas’s DAC was good. It sounded better than my EMU, although no direct comparison was made. The separation and details where better. We did a direct comparison with Zoltans DAC and the E-MU, and I was surprised how close they where. The DAC sounded better, but it would not be noticeable on not too well recorded music. So, both DAC’s where good, but Tamas spent some time comparing them head to head, so maybe he’ll have more on that (then again, guess I’m the only neutral observer here
We also tried listening without the stabilizing thingies and with, and maybe there was a difference. It was more pronounced when we put them under the DAC, though. Maybe I’ll start cutting tennis balls in half...
Pics to come.