Horrible positional and sound in general, HyperX Cloud and Xonar Phoebus.

Dec 10, 2014 at 12:57 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 20

Frizaa

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Hello !
This is very important to me, so please try to help me as much as you can ! 
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I've been using the G930 by Logitech for around 2 years and I really really liked them . I mainly play CS:GO and could really point out the position of my enemies.
The positional sound on the G930 is really good in my opinion, and that is the most important thing to me when I play.
 
 
1 Week ago I got my ASUS Xonar Phoebus and Kingston HyperX Cloud, as an upgrade to the G930 headset.
The experience I had in the past week is truly horrible audio-wise.
 
With default settings, the positional sound very bad compared to the G930. I can't hear enemies coming from any direction, and I am extremely based on my vision.
I tried tweaking a lot of stuff in the Phoebus software like Xear Surround Headphones (where you can choose the room size), Dolby Home Theater V4, Sample rates and more.
 
I feel like the sound is coming out of the center of my head, which annoys me very much and makes music listening disturbing to me.
 
The Xear surround is horrible, it changes your audio completely and I can't bare playing with it on.
The Dolby Home Theater doesn't do much good either. I tried presets of some people but never got the sound I wanted, not even close.
 
I am really confused and a bit angry, as I just can't get the sound I had before.
You might ask yourself what I am using now. Well now I use some mixed settings (Home Theater with surround headphones [and that's it] and regular sample rates (I can't hear a difference anyway).
 
I really need help with this, as I need to know if I want to return it (which is a big problem in where I live) or maybe you guys can help me find the sound I am looking for.
 
I will be so happy and thankful if I get my "issue" fixed, as I am very disappointed and confused.
 
Thanks a lot, Ofir. 
 
Dec 12, 2014 at 5:25 PM Post #3 of 20
Sorry, you picked a card that only has Dolby Home Theatre (no "true" surround sound virtualization, just emulation). Xear just copies the channels to the rear. You want Dolby Headphones, which is available on the Xonar STX. Swap the card.
 
Dec 12, 2014 at 5:41 PM Post #4 of 20
I've had a Xonar DGX, but upgraded to Xonar U7 just for trying to get better sound quality and even better surround sound. I use them with Audio Technica ATH-AD700. With both cards, I can easily tell where footsteps are coming form (suuuuuuuuper accurate) and I can sometimes ever tell how far away I hear footsteps. The AD700 has a huge soundstage and in combination with the Dolby Headphones surround (DGX) and Dolby Home Theatre v4 (U7) it's a blast. It almost feels like cheating.
Indeed the Xear stuff is RUBBISH, but the Dolby Home Theatre v4 (U7) certainly is a nice piece of software with different profiles and EQ etc... I have the Surround Virtualizer for Headphones at the max setting and it works for me.
 
Dec 13, 2014 at 12:50 PM Post #6 of 20
  I've had a Xonar DGX, but upgraded to Xonar U7 just for trying to get better sound quality and even better surround sound. I use them with Audio Technica ATH-AD700. With both cards, I can easily tell where footsteps are coming form (suuuuuuuuper accurate) and I can sometimes ever tell how far away I hear footsteps. The AD700 has a huge soundstage and in combination with the Dolby Headphones surround (DGX) and Dolby Home Theatre v4 (U7) it's a blast. It almost feels like cheating.
Indeed the Xear stuff is RUBBISH, but the Dolby Home Theatre v4 (U7) certainly is a nice piece of software with different profiles and EQ etc... I have the Surround Virtualizer for Headphones at the max setting and it works for me.

Thanks a lot, can you send me your Dolby Home Theater v4 settings ? I will try to return/sell the sound card.
 
Dec 13, 2014 at 12:54 PM Post #7 of 20
Sorry, you picked a card that only has Dolby Home Theatre (no "true" surround sound virtualization, just emulation). Xear just copies the channels to the rear. You want Dolby Headphones, which is available on the Xonar STX. Swap the card.

are you saying it doesn't support Dolby Surround 7.1 ? It doesn't have "Dolby Headphones" ? I am confused because I was told otherwise.
http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/258049-asus-phoebus-is-it-71/#entry3526955
Thank you
 
Dec 14, 2014 at 8:04 AM Post #10 of 20
Sorry, you picked a card that only has Dolby Home Theatre (no "true" surround sound virtualization, just emulation). Xear just copies the channels to the rear. You want Dolby Headphones, which is available on the Xonar STX. Swap the card.

I am really tight on time, if u get the time to answer me please do. thank you very much
 
Dec 14, 2014 at 4:49 PM Post #14 of 20
No, set it up like headphones and open the Dolby Home Theatre v4 software (the blue looking window)  to activate the Surround Virtualizer. If that doesn't give you nice surround sound, I don't get it.
NOTE: Don't use the Xonar (orange window) software to try and get surround sound, it's the Dolby software you need
 
Dec 15, 2014 at 1:17 AM Post #15 of 20
No, set it up like headphones and open the Dolby Home Theatre v4 software (the blue looking window)  to activate the Surround Virtualizer. If that doesn't give you nice surround sound, I don't get it.
NOTE: Don't use the Xonar (orange window) software to try and get surround sound, it's the Dolby software you need

Thats what I am doing .. But I still get bad positional sound ingame , and couldnt get the EQ to help
 

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