Help with Schiit vs Geshelli Labs vs RME DAC/AMP Solution

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I need some help with picking a new DAC/AMP for my audio setup. The headphones I use daily are the HD800S and the LCD-2; but I also have a collection of IEMs like the Xenns Top, Dunu SA6 Ultra, Letshuoer x HBB EJ07M, Raptgo Hook-X, and the Symphonium Meteors. I may expand in the future but I’m content with what I have for now (secretly eyeing the Meze Lirics lol).

My main use cases are pc gaming and music. I'm not really a competitive gamer, but I do love the immersion of a wide soundstage with accurate imaging. As far as music, I listen to all genres. When I listen to more modern rap or hip-hop I do enjoy a bit of added bass, but when I listen to older rock or classical music I like a more clean sound that doesn't feel muddy.

I used to have the iFi Zen Stack which I thought was pretty nice sounding but I wanted something a bit higher end with proper balanced output as I had lots of issues with it my 4.4mm output and found out the Zens are known for that I guess. I ended up going with a Topping D90SE/A90D stack, and to be honest I didn’t know what all the fuss was about. It sounded kind of flat to me and wasn’t all that exciting.

I sold those off and just bought the FiiO K9 Pro ESS from Amazon. Everything sounds pretty good on the FiiO but I have to say it doesn’t feel worth the price tag. I feel like I can get something a lot better for around that price or perhaps if I raise my budget a little more. I also don’t need a lot of the extra features like Bluetooth and whatnot.

Here’s essentially what I’m looking for:
  • Good soundstage and imaging. I do play a lot of pc games, and so I would like to get something that has a fun and immersive soundstage with good imaging.
  • Low noise floor. Since I use a lot of IEMs as well as fairly sensitive headphones, I would like as low a noise floor as I can get.
  • I like some bass in my music and so I wouldn’t necessarily mind something with a warmer sound signature so long as it doesn’t hinder the soundstage and imaging performance.
  • SE and Balanced outputs. Preferably a 6.35mm (1/4”), a 4.4mm and an XLR if possible. I can settle for just a 6.35 and one of the balanced types if I have to.
  • RCA out for my desktop speakers. I'm just running Audioengine A2+ for speakers so nothing really too special, but I like the simplicity of being able to use one device for volume control as opposed to connecting the speakers via USB.
  • I would prefer for the DAC/AMP combo to be from the same brand if possible so I can keep a simple-looking symmetrical aesthetic. In other words, I'd prefer not to mix-and-match say a Schiit DAC with a Burson AMP. It's just what I'd prefer in terms of aesthetic.
Here’s what I’m eyeing so far:
  • Schiit Bifrost 2 DAC & Jotunheim 2 AMP
    • I've seen a lot of people saying that the Jot2 isn't great for IEMs since the SE can be noisy. I'm wondering if adding an Asgard 3 in the chain would be good for the IEMs and then the Jot2 for my HD800S and LCD-2? I don't love the idea of needing 3 units, but I can figure something out if this is the endgame setup.
  • Geshelli Labs JNOG 2 Socketed (w/Sparkos op-amp upgrade) & ERISH 2 (for balanced output) & Archel 3 (for SE output for IEMs, etc.)
    • This seems like it would be a nice kit, but I know there's at least a 3+ month wait right now. Also, again I don't love the idea of having 3 units on my desk, but if it's that good then I'll figure something out.
  • RME ADI-2 FS DAC & Monolith THX AAA 887 AMP
    • I know these aren't the same brand, but I've seen a few people with this setup and they do look okay together aesthetically. I'm not too sure about the RME since most people say it's a bit complicated to use, and I've never dabbled with custom EQ before. I'm more of a plug-and-play listener, but if it's truly the best sound that hits all my points then I'm willing to learn.
  • Burson Conductor 3X Performance DAC/AMP AIO
    • I've seen some good things about this one. I don't know much about it other than a few people recommending it to me in other threads. I've tried looking at youtube reviews and walkthroughs of the device and it looks promising but I don't know what it's like soundstage-wise, gaming-wise, etc.
  • Sennheiser HDV820
    • This one is quite a bit outside my budget at the moment but I figured I'd throw it in the mix since I've seen a lot of great things about it, especially when paired with an HD800S. I'd be willing to save up for this if it's truly the best thing I can get for my needs.
Other options are to either keep the FiiO K9 Pro ESS, or let me know if there is something else out there you recommend. My budget is around $1500.
 
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