HALP Just pulled tha trigger Beyerdynamic DT 990 Edition 600 Ohm

Nov 21, 2020 at 10:17 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 3

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Just paid $165 for these, technically I could cancel, specifically got the edition vs the pro for C O M F O R T, and the 990>880 because I prefer open ear to noise cancel and I want that B A S S vs a more reference sound... as far as the 600 vs 250, well 600 is bigger number :relieved:, but honestly I am not an audiophile AT ALL I got memed into buying hyperX cloud II a year+ ago, and think my Z906 speakers are pretty rad. I'm thinking one day when I get a nice AMP/DAC I can use these headphones to test it out and generally like having nice hardware, anyway critique my sound choices, are the Z906/Cloud II good, bad, meh?

As far as these headphones go though I want to know whether, to get some benefit for these headphones over the 32 ohm version I absolutely need a DAC/AMP, this is going to get kind of technical and unfortunately I don't have specific specifications.

My mobo documentation seems to indicate it has some sort of variable amp called the "Smart Headphone AMP" and I guess the DAC would be "ALC1220 120dB SNR HD Audio", it's a HEDT x399 Gigabyte board so it's pretty beefy.

There was another user here who got the 990 350 ohms with a motherboard with similar features but he seemed to have disappear, here is the thread
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/bey...th-realtek-alc1220s-amp.865135/#post-13877824

so by manually adjusting the onboard AMP settings he got the volume to work ok, my main 2 questions are

Hypothetically if we have the same feature, what can I expect as far as loudness with 600 ohms, being he maxed his 250ohms around 70% volume?

Without defaulting to "get an amp" do you think he was actually receiving benefit of the higher ohm headset with the feature?

Sorry but gigabyte support is closed so I can't get details, honestly I am interested in the tech specs and my restless mind wants an answer

this is the only page I can find for it on gigabytes website
https://au.aorus.com/blog-detail.php?i=336
and a thread on reddit of a guy saying using the same setting as the thread from this forum above he notices increased bass, if that helps anyone understand what may be going on
https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones...yte_aorus_smart_headphone_amp_with_headphone/

Thanks for all input, just tryna be a learned new audiophile :P
 
Nov 27, 2020 at 9:52 PM Post #2 of 3
Just paid $165 for these, technically I could cancel, specifically got the edition vs the pro for C O M F O R T, and the 990>880 because I prefer open ear to noise cancel and I want that B A S S vs a more reference sound... as far as the 600 vs 250, well 600 is bigger number :relieved:, but honestly I am not an audiophile AT ALL I got memed into buying hyperX cloud II a year+ ago, and think my Z906 speakers are pretty rad. I'm thinking one day when I get a nice AMP/DAC I can use these headphones to test it out and generally like having nice hardware, anyway critique my sound choices, are the Z906/Cloud II good, bad, meh?

As far as these headphones go though I want to know whether, to get some benefit for these headphones over the 32 ohm version I absolutely need a DAC/AMP, this is going to get kind of technical and unfortunately I don't have specific specifications.

My mobo documentation seems to indicate it has some sort of variable amp called the "Smart Headphone AMP" and I guess the DAC would be "ALC1220 120dB SNR HD Audio", it's a HEDT x399 Gigabyte board so it's pretty beefy.

There was another user here who got the 990 350 ohms with a motherboard with similar features but he seemed to have disappear, here is the thread
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/bey...th-realtek-alc1220s-amp.865135/#post-13877824

so by manually adjusting the onboard AMP settings he got the volume to work ok, my main 2 questions are

Hypothetically if we have the same feature, what can I expect as far as loudness with 600 ohms, being he maxed his 250ohms around 70% volume?

Without defaulting to "get an amp" do you think he was actually receiving benefit of the higher ohm headset with the feature?

Sorry but gigabyte support is closed so I can't get details, honestly I am interested in the tech specs and my restless mind wants an answer

this is the only page I can find for it on gigabytes website
https://au.aorus.com/blog-detail.php?i=336
and a thread on reddit of a guy saying using the same setting as the thread from this forum above he notices increased bass, if that helps anyone understand what may be going on
https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones...yte_aorus_smart_headphone_amp_with_headphone/

Thanks for all input, just tryna be a learned new audiophile :p

There's another question on the first page of this section about a similar issue. Yeah, "600" is a bigger number, but it's the impedance of the headphone. It means two things:
  1. The 600 ohm driver coils are probably much lighter than in a lower impedance headphone. This means your headphone will probably sound better - more quality, quicker transients, better everything, basically.
  2. 600 ohm loads are almost impossible to drive with most solid-state headphone amplifiers, let alone a computer sound card, laptop motherboard, or a smart phone.
You will need an amplifier with capability to swing a lot of voltage. Most computers run on 5V, battery-powered devices, even less. There are some sound cards that can be adjusted for a high-impedance load, but even then, they usually mean 300 ohms, not 600. (Some very famous Sennheiser headphones are all built to 300 ohms.) Most small, solid-state headphone amplifiers will choke on a 600 ohm load. A typical tube amplifier can handle it in stride, however. There are solid-state amps that can do a reasonable job, too, but they are not as common.
 
Nov 28, 2020 at 3:30 AM Post #3 of 3
There's another question on the first page of this section about a similar issue. Yeah, "600" is a bigger number, but it's the impedance of the headphone. It means two things:
  1. The 600 ohm driver coils are probably much lighter than in a lower impedance headphone. This means your headphone will probably sound better - more quality, quicker transients, better everything, basically.
  2. 600 ohm loads are almost impossible to drive with most solid-state headphone amplifiers, let alone a computer sound card, laptop motherboard, or a smart phone.
You will need an amplifier with capability to swing a lot of voltage. Most computers run on 5V, battery-powered devices, even less. There are some sound cards that can be adjusted for a high-impedance load, but even then, they usually mean 300 ohms, not 600. (Some very famous Sennheiser headphones are all built to 300 ohms.) Most small, solid-state headphone amplifiers will choke on a 600 ohm load. A typical tube amplifier can handle it in stride, however. There are solid-state amps that can do a reasonable job, too, but they are not as common.
wow thank you for this reply I just replied to you in my other thread good person
 

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