gapless playback on ipod?

[JayJayz]

is gapless playback meaning it goes onto playing the next song with no gap in sound between the 2? because i listen to alot of dj mixes which dont have gaps and play for 70 mins and it would really suck hearing a gap after each song because they are divided up into like 15 different songs, but they play continously.

so if that is gapless playback, is it only available on the newest 5.5g ipods, or can u get it on 5g or 4g ?

 

[Musicdiddy]

I believe I am right in saying that the 5g & 5.5g both have gapless. I have an 80gb ipod & listen to a lot of live music so gapless is essential for me; there is no audible gap between the tracks.

I also owned a 4g ipod and that definitely did not have gapless playback.

 

[JayJayz]

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Originally Posted by Musicdiddy /img/forum/go_quote.gif I believe I am right in saying that the 5g & 5.5g both have gapless. I have an 80gb ipod & listen to a lot of live music so gapless is essential for me; there is no audible gap between the tracks. I also owned a 4g ipod and that definitely did not have gapless playback.

NOOOOOOO !!!!!

i want to get an imod now its going to cost a forrrrrtune.

if only the 4g had gapless *cries in the corner*

 

[TheMarchingMule]

You could utilize Rockbox for your 4G, but then your battery life is shot to hell. That, and afaik, it's far from optimized.

 

[warrior05]

I had a 4g iMod for quite some time loaded with Rockbox. Gapless playback is essential for me. Yes, Rockbox greatly reduced battery runtimes but otherwise, current builds have been pretty stable. I was really annoyed that Apple didn't include the 4g when they went gapless. So now I have a 5.5 and using Apple's firmware since I tired of the battery runtimes with Rockbox. If that is ever taken care of than I will be putting Rockbox on my new iMod.

By the way, the Trekstor Vibez natively supports gapless playback but they top out at 12gb. Wonderful sounding DAP though.

 

[scompton]

You also have to tag the songs as gapless. I've got a few that didn't get tagged and there's a gap. This will definitely be true for DJ mixes that aren't tagged from an online library.

 

[immtbiker]

How do you enable the gapless playback feature on the 5.5G? I can't find it in "Settings".

TIA

 

[elnero]

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Originally Posted by immtbiker /img/forum/go_quote.gif How do you enable the gapless playback feature on the 5.5G? I can't find it in "Settings". TIA

You have to do it in iTunes, I do it by selecting all the tracks for a particular album, right click, select get info, in the bottom right corner select yes for gapless album. I believe you can also just select all your tracks in iTunes and do them all at once using the above method.

The thing with Apples implementation of gapless playback is it doesn't seem to be full proof some albums or even just some tracks will exhibit gaps that are not there when using something like Rockbox but it's better than nothing that's for sure.

 

[pata2001]

The gapless option in iTunes has NOTHING to do with gapless playback. It only disables crossfade for the selected tracks. The only requirements for gapless playback are:
1. The tracks are actually gapless from the CD (duh)
2. The tracks are ripped properly. (MP3 and AAC ripped via iTunes are gapless, Lame MP3 is gapless too).
3. Let iTunes scan the tracks for gapless information when importing the tracks.
4. Play the songs as an album. The tracks won't be gapless if you shuffle them, for obvious reason.

Gapless playback itself is automatic. Why should there be an "on/off" anyway?

As for those that have problems, the only thing I could think off is that the tracks are not ripped properly. I have zero problems with gapless playback on my 5G iPod and 2G nano, and I have tons of non-stop album mixes. Ripping the tracks via iTunes will definitely ensure gapless. Ripping via EAC + Lame MP3 also produces perfectly gapless MP3s.

 

[immtbiker]

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Originally Posted by elnero /img/forum/go_quote.gif You have to do it in iTunes...

OK, thanks. I loaded my ALAC files via Ephpod. I don't use iTunes.

 

[elnero]

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Originally Posted by immtbiker /img/forum/go_quote.gif OK, thanks. I loaded my ALAC files via Ephpod. I don't use iTunes.

Yup, Unfortunately iTunes is necessary for Apples gapless to work. Have you considered Rockbox?

 

[scompton]

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Originally Posted by pata2001 /img/forum/go_quote.gif The gapless option in iTunes has NOTHING to do with gapless playback. It only disables crossfade for the selected tracks. The only requirements for gapless playback are: 1. The tracks are actually gapless from the CD (duh) 2. The tracks are ripped properly. (MP3 and AAC ripped via iTunes are gapless, Lame MP3 is gapless too). 3. Let iTunes scan the tracks for gapless information when importing the tracks. 4. Play the songs as an album. The tracks won't be gapless if you shuffle them, for obvious reason. Gapless playback itself is automatic. Why should there be an "on/off" anyway? As for those that have problems, the only thing I could think off is that the tracks are not ripped properly. I have zero problems with gapless playback on my 5G iPod and 2G nano. Ripping the tracks via iTunes will definitely ensure gapless.

That could be, before getting an iPod, I ripped some CDs using Musicmatch and Rio software.

 

[pata2001]

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Originally Posted by elnero /img/forum/go_quote.gif Yup, Unfortunately iTunes is necessary for Apples gapless to work.

If I'm not mistaken, Winamp now does support gapless on iPod. Dunno about foobar, but the software itself is gapless capable on iTunes ripped tracks.

 

[elnero]

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Originally Posted by pata2001 /img/forum/go_quote.gif The gapless option in iTunes has NOTHING to do with gapless playback. It only disables crossfade for the selected tracks

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Originally Posted by pata2001 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Gapless playback itself is automatic. Why should there be an "on/off" anyway?

That may very well be but then why if gapless album is not selected is there gaps?
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Originally Posted by pata2001 /img/forum/go_quote.gif 2. The tracks are ripped properly. (MP3 and AAC ripped via iTunes are gapless, Lame MP3 is gapless too).

It's been my understanding that MP3 is not a natively gapless codec, are Lame and iTunes doing something to the codec to make it truly gapless or is it that the implementations of gapless require specific conditions to work properly?

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Originally Posted by pata2001 /img/forum/go_quote.gif As for those that have problems, the only thing I could think off is that the tracks are not ripped properly. I have zero problems with gapless playback on my 5G iPod and 2G nano, and I have tons of non-stop album mixes. Ripping the tracks via iTunes will definitely ensure gapless. Ripping via EAC + Lame MP3 also produces perfectly gapless MP3s.

I have one album in particular that I've tried ripping via iTunes and other methods as Apple Lossless, mp3 and AAC, I can get it to play gapless as mp3 and AAC but not as an ALAC. Rockbox has no problem whatsoever with any of the files. So that begs the question if Apple's implementation of gapless is correct and problem free as you say then why are there problems when using their own software to rip? Also, if it's is problems with the tracks not being ripped properly why do those same tracks play without problems with Rockbox?

 

[elnero]

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Originally Posted by pata2001 /img/forum/go_quote.gif If I'm not mistaken, Winamp now does support gapless on iPod. Dunno about foobar, but the software itself is gapless capable on iTunes ripped tracks.

Also if Apples implementation of gapless was a proper implementation like Rockbox then why is it that iTunes or some other software is required to "enable" it?