markl
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One of my all-time desert island discs. Jumped on the new DE version the instant I found out about it. After long pre-order, it finally arrived.
As much as I'm mildly interested in the extras, main draw for me was the hope that it had been remastered. Why remaster such a recent CD? LOUDNESS WAR victim, plain and simple. Maybe now that tide is turning, we'll start to see re-issues of these dynamic-less CDs.
Anyway, received the Deluxe set today. Mastering credit is ambiguous. After the credits for the original album, it lists Bunt Stafford Clark as mastering engineer, same as the original; however, this may be just a simple cut and paste of the credits from the original booklet. On the next page, it says Deluxe Edition Credits, Tim Young mastering engineer. But does that mean he just did the new stuff on the bonus discs? Time to compare via EAC.
First clue comes from disc lengths. original is 61:44. The new one is 61:36 in length.
I didn't run all the tracks, just the first 7. Here is the Deluxe Edition peak levels (oddly low for a new CD):
1. 82.7%
2. 82.9%
3. 83.8%
4. 82.6%
5. 83.1%
6. 81.7%
7. 82.9%
The levels on the original for the first 7 tracks are all 100%
Verdict: Yes, we have a remaster at a lower level, maybe some dynamics have been restored. YAY!
Will give it a spin later tonight to see what iut actually sounds like.
Mark
P.S. If you don't know Elbow, you are truly missing out. Very modern sounding, but extremely woozy, boozy, watery, hazy, yet abrasive and gritty music that rushes and whirls set to extremely emotional, raw and honest lyrics sung with fantastic commitment by mumbly but emotive singer Guy Garvey. Owes a big det to Peter Gabriel if that helps any. This record is well worth the Deluxe Edition treatment, it's really a modern classic.
As much as I'm mildly interested in the extras, main draw for me was the hope that it had been remastered. Why remaster such a recent CD? LOUDNESS WAR victim, plain and simple. Maybe now that tide is turning, we'll start to see re-issues of these dynamic-less CDs.
Anyway, received the Deluxe set today. Mastering credit is ambiguous. After the credits for the original album, it lists Bunt Stafford Clark as mastering engineer, same as the original; however, this may be just a simple cut and paste of the credits from the original booklet. On the next page, it says Deluxe Edition Credits, Tim Young mastering engineer. But does that mean he just did the new stuff on the bonus discs? Time to compare via EAC.
First clue comes from disc lengths. original is 61:44. The new one is 61:36 in length.
I didn't run all the tracks, just the first 7. Here is the Deluxe Edition peak levels (oddly low for a new CD):
1. 82.7%
2. 82.9%
3. 83.8%
4. 82.6%
5. 83.1%
6. 81.7%
7. 82.9%
The levels on the original for the first 7 tracks are all 100%
Verdict: Yes, we have a remaster at a lower level, maybe some dynamics have been restored. YAY!

Will give it a spin later tonight to see what iut actually sounds like.
Mark
P.S. If you don't know Elbow, you are truly missing out. Very modern sounding, but extremely woozy, boozy, watery, hazy, yet abrasive and gritty music that rushes and whirls set to extremely emotional, raw and honest lyrics sung with fantastic commitment by mumbly but emotive singer Guy Garvey. Owes a big det to Peter Gabriel if that helps any. This record is well worth the Deluxe Edition treatment, it's really a modern classic.