Cool Cars I've driven recently

Sep 7, 2004 at 7:26 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 29

Tuberoller

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For some odd reason people seem to trust me to drive their cars around and allow me to freely abuse them
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. Sometimes I don't even have to ask,they give me the keys with a big smile without any real clue. Seriously,most of my friends and family know I'm a car and driving enthusiast and I love cars,especially fast ones. When one of my family members or friends gets a new car,a trip by my house or shop is usually among the first stops. Here are a few of those I drove and liked a bit.

2004 BMW 645(six speed manual) -My dad bought this for his wife for her birthday. I drove it around while they were in Vegas and found some things I really liked and really didn't like about it. First off,this car is bigger than I thought and it feels like a big car. It's relatively fast and the trans is slick as glass. The traction and stability controls feel about perfect and don't intrude too much at all. That thumbwheel knob control thingy BMW uses has to be the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Unless you use voice commands,it takes three steps to change a radio station or adjust the climate control. I never did figure out how to use the navigation system. I'll add that my Dad found numerous problems with the paint on this car. It looks like a woman's car and I could'nt see myself with one of these .Overall,this is a big,reasonably quick car that handles and rides superbly. It has a great exhaust note and very nice interior. You should be able to buy one of these without that stupid joystick/thumbwheel thingy.

2004 Porsche GT3 - I was allowed to drive this by the Porsche North American Race Director at Road America and around the surrounding countryside. I have never really liked Porsches and this one was yellow with a big wing on the back. I had my son with me the entire time I drove this one,even on the track, and we really abused this car. I think all my previous notions of Porsches were formed behind the wheel of the Turbo cars. The GT3 is normally-aspirated and seems much more linear and predictable. This is likey the best handling street car I've ever driven. I doubt that it will generate higher skidpad numbers than my old Z06 but it is much easier to drive really fast. The engine sounds great and the trans shifts lightning quick. The shifter sucks but running this car through the gears is big fun. This car feels a lot faster than it really is and the feedback you get gives the sensation of greater speed. The truth is I was able to turn faster lap times(at Road America) in my CTS-V but I did'nt know that until after I was done lapping. The seats are the best ever by a big margin and the GT3 does not confine big guys like me. This is easily the best street Porshe I've ever driven and is a great car to use to hone your driving skills and for track days.

2004 Mercedes S600 - This car belongs to Head-fi member Angel Teres and he almost never drives it. This is one of the most detached cars I've ever driven. Everything feels like it takes a second to react to your inputs. Its a very fast car but it's just too big and sloppy to be travel at that pace. It handles well but the stability controls interrupt very early on and spoil your fun. The traction control is extremely goofy and resets itself every time you come to a stop. The brakes are downright scary for fast driving and I went into panic mode a few times thinking they might not stop me. This car accelerates so quickly and with such silence that I found myself driving 110 mph several times without any sensation of that speed. The trans shifts like a stinkin' drag car. In sport mode it will actually lay dual strips of rubber about 30 feet long on the first to second shift. The S600 is a pretty auto and the interior is super nice but the lack of any positive driver feedback makes this a really boring car.

2003 Porsche 911 GT3 Cup Spec Racer - I drove this car on the track at Road America a few weeks ago. I've already said too much about what I'm trying to do with this and I don't wanna spoil my deal or jinx myself. I'll spill the beans when I can. Anyway,this is an amazing car in so many ways. I have to admit that I've never driven a properly prepared sports car and this was an experience for me. The first thing I noticed is that there is nothing in this car to distract you from driving. The car feels very open inside and I don't feel confined even though the seat doesn't adjust and I had to wear a harness and neck restraint along with my helmet. I was briefed about the warm-up involved with the clutch,brakes and tires but it still did not prepare for the sensation of having no clutch,brakes or tires until they were warm. That first turn was downright horrifying. This is the best handling car I've driven ,period,by a long shot. The brakes are incredible and the engine is just as impressive. All the stuff I practice on the street like heel-toe downshifting and trail braking are easy with the Porsche race car. The pedals are spaced perfectly,the engine revs really quickly and the brakes allowed me to do some truly insane things around that track. If God really,really likes me,I will have some good news(at least for me) about this really soon.

2004 Chrysler 300C Hemi - this belongs to my neighbour who seemed really afraid to allow me to drive his car. I did'nt want to resort to begging but I asked to drive one of these at a dealer and the salesman told me he did'nt have one around,so I had to loan Kenny G( he really does look exactly like Kenny G) my pressure washer. This car looks kinda goofy to me and I can't believe these things are selling like they are but I do see why folks like them. Me and this car got off on the wrong foot. I tried to burn rubber in this thing and it would'nt even chirp the tires. This is wrong in so many ways and is downright inexcusable in any car with a big American V-8 in it. The 300C sounds like it really wants to go fast but the computer programs for the engine and trans seem to be on different pages of the "go fast" book. I can feel the engine backing off on every shift and the trans executes those shifts like it's filled with molasses. This thing needs an old fashioned shift-kit and a deep stall torque convertor. From what I understand this is basically the same trans in the Mercedes and they shift great,what happened here? The interior looks really nice and the fit and finish were suprisingly near perfection. The paint was perfect and like I said,the exhaust note was pure music. Chrysler could win a Grammy for "Best Soul Performance" for that exhaust music but the lack of delivery on that beautiful exhaust note is a big let-down.

2004 Pontiac GTO(six speed manual) - The dealer that earlier denied me a test drive,called back a few months later pratically begging me to take one home overnight. It seems these are'nt selling like GM had hoped. I find that entirely amusing. This is an ugly car to me. I just think it looks too "girly" and has no soul as far as exterior appearance. I would never buy one of these while it looks the way it does. The interior is very nice and everything seems well thought-out. The engine is one my favorites and I know it well from use in my own Trans-Am, Corvette and CTS-V. The trans is likewise one that I know well and use daily. The exhaust note is another pure Sonata and sounds amazing to my ears. It is a deep baritone that demands respect. My own 2001 Trans-Am easily has the loudest stock exhaust I've ever heard but the GTO is nearly as loud and has better tone. Rowing this thing through the gears is an aural delight. The GTO is fast and fairly nimble but the tires and chassis are not matched well at all. The tires lose grip long before you feel any body roll which leads to some really unpredictable handling and scary oversteer. The GTO is not as fast as I hoped it would be and isn't as fast as the exhaust note would lead you to believe. The one thing this car does better than any other I've driven recently is big, smokey burnouts. You can lay rubber in this car in the first three gears and I had a ball doing sideways rolling burnouts from about 30mph. The big smoke combined with the loud exhaust give a sensation of real smokey violence but you ain't really hurting anything by burning rubber in this car. It's more noise and smoke than actual speed.

If you've driven some cool cars please post some impressions and I'll add impressions of other cars I've driven recently.(Jag XKR,Neon SRT-4,Dodge Ram SRT-10,Cadillac STS,Chevy Colorado P/U and a few others)
 
Sep 7, 2004 at 7:46 AM Post #2 of 29
I found it quite cool that my very modest Mitsubishi Colt 1.6 Comfort Automatic (bought new last year; 1.6 l/4 cyl., ~ 105 hp, conventional 4speed automatic transmission) actually reaches 210 km/h, when the autobahn goes slightly downhill, and still makes 200 km/h on plain autobahns. But I guess you're not really interested in that league of cars anyway, Fred...
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Grinnings from Hannover!

Manfred / lini

P.S.: Oh, just btw - this struck me as funny: http://eikaramba.de/data/pics/images/liga.jpg
 
Sep 7, 2004 at 8:12 AM Post #3 of 29
Lini:Tape the hood and unused door joints, tape over those areas of the grille that are not in front of the radiator, remove the antenna, fold the mirrors, load two or three people in it, and you will be able to get another 10 to 20 km/hr. Drive Safe! Twenty years ago, in Los Angeles area, there were a bunch of folks who took part in "Banzai Runs", where if they bragged about how fast their car was, they had to provide documentary proof. A few people would have a timeslip from OCIR (Orange County International Raceway), but most would have to show their tickets...then came a secondary competition of maximum miles per hour/minimum co$t of the ticket.

Great Idea, Tuberoller! A few years ago, I would have been able to contribute to this, but now I am just a washed-up retiree.
BTW, all the motor mags agree on the iDrive thingy in the Beemer. I was unable to figure it out while a passenger in my friend's.
 
Sep 7, 2004 at 8:27 AM Post #4 of 29
Coolest car I've driven was a Porsche Carrera 4. It was part of a very cool trip that involved flying in a private jet, playing golf at a really nice private resort in Scottsdale, staying at an incredible house and drinking some great booze.
All in all, the car wasn't the best part of the deal.
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Sep 7, 2004 at 11:09 AM Post #7 of 29
Would like to see the tuberoller reviews for the following cars.

Jaguar S type R. Similar to the XKR, same engine only smaller body.
(have one)

2005 BMW M5

2005 CTS-V with the 500hp engine

2005 Corvette
 
Sep 7, 2004 at 2:11 PM Post #8 of 29
The 2005 CTS-V with the 500HP is still a myth but I would buy one today if it actually hit the streets.


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I'm thinkin' that or the new M5 might be my next ride but I gotta drive one first.

I drove a 2003 S-Type R but only for about a mile with the owner sitting right next to me. My Mom just got the XKR(she's a big Jag fan and has owned Jags for many years) and it runs really nice.
 
Sep 7, 2004 at 2:25 PM Post #9 of 29
that's one evil caddy - tho the way the hoodscoop looks reminds me of a subaru for some reason.
 
Sep 7, 2004 at 2:27 PM Post #10 of 29
I drove a GT4. Was kinda disapointed. Z06 seems more spirited for much less. GT3 feels much more race inspired. Have yet to drive a gt2 or anything supercar-ish
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Sep 7, 2004 at 5:46 PM Post #11 of 29
drove a 200? S320 over the summer... not too fun to drive for the reasons Tuberoller gave above regarding the S600. oh, and driving it in japan makes it even worse. narrower streets, slower speed limits, lots of other cars on the streets....

btw, it is my grandpa's car. I guess he could get a higher model but then the car would be too large to maneuver well in some of the small streets of japan (getting better, but some back alleys are still small) and besides, he doesn't drive it since he damages it too easily. I hear he damaged a bumper right in front of his house after running into a telephone pole (narrow streets?) resulting in a bill over $5k to fix it?

also driven a ML350 (not too fun either) and rode in the passenger's seat of a Lotus Super 7. once I really learn how to drive a stick maybe I can ask my uncle to let me drive the lotus.
 
Sep 7, 2004 at 6:31 PM Post #12 of 29
I recently was the lucky recipient of an Audi A6 2.7T and damn is it a fun car to drive. I just wish the steering was a bit sharper. I miss the handling of my old BMW 328, boy could that thing turn on a dime.

Tube I think you should check out the Audi RS6 also. In a recent review I read it trounced the BMW M5.
 
Sep 7, 2004 at 7:10 PM Post #13 of 29
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Originally Posted by britishbane
I recently was the lucky recipient of an Audi A6 2.7T and damn is it a fun car to drive. I just wish the steering was a bit sharper. I miss the handling of my old BMW 328, boy could that thing turn on a dime.

Tube I think you should check out the Audi RS6 also. In a recent review I read it trounced the BMW M5.



I was invited to drive an RS6 Spec Racer at Road America,I think Audi is considering a racer series using either the RS6 or a new RS4 car and they were looking for prospective owner/drivers and were not shy about stealing such prospects from the Porsche and Panoz camps. I was approached by an Audi race team member right as I going to the washroom in my firesuit after driving the GT3.

One car that really impressed me at Road America was the Volvo S60. I have a pic of the S60 passing me in the 911 Spec racer while I was on cold tires in another thread. That thing was quick and handled very well. Of course,that's the race prepped car but I understand the street version is a real sleeper and minor mods like a more efficient intercooler and wasegate are pushing these cars near the 500hp mark.

Another goofy thing I did recently was join an Auto Country Club based here in Chicago(actually Joliet). I'd heard of the concept of auto country clubs before and wanted to join and I got an invite after another guy backed out and decided to join. Check out the details atAutobahn Country Club . This sounds kinda goofy but I think it's gonna be a good idea. Like most country clubs this place is filled with snobs,but I'll get along fine as long as they don't bother me and allow me to race in peace.
 
Sep 7, 2004 at 9:20 PM Post #15 of 29
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Originally Posted by bhd812
Hey Fred I wanted to ask you about any driving schools around you might recommend. I learned how to drive stick basically last year and I believe I am ready for the next level. I really just wanna learn how to use the car as it was made for.
any help?



Are you just learning to drive? Or looking to obtain skills in order to race.

Driving schools (such as Skip Barbers) do offer quite a bit to offer. But imo, they are often more expensive than their worth.

My suggestion is to get involved with your local autocross. Go out and get a relatively cheap rear wheel drive car. An old 240sx or comparable car will be perfect. Then go find your local chapter of autocross and just show up. You don't even have to drive your first time, just show up. Start talking to people. Help out with cones, booths, ect. When you feel you are ready (hopefully the first time! :P) Sign up to drive! And don't worry if you knock over every single cone. If you come with a willing-to-learn attitude, people will help you out. Your attitude will affect how people will help you. Everyone remembers how humbling their first drive was. Be sure you remain confident of your skills, know what you are capable of, and have that willing-to-learn attitude to learn what you aren't. The snotty kids (or adults that show up in thier brand new vette expecting to smoke everyone) are the ones who don't get help. Make friends with the old drivers, they have a lot to teach you. Ask (but don't pester) for rides at the end of the day when free rides are available. Ask for them to ride in your car during your runs and give you pointers.

Autocross is pretty cheap, and you will learn a TON from your experiences. More than you could in any school. You will also learn a lot about your car as you will likely get caught by the upgrade fever and want to work on your car. (Not to mention repairs that come from "spirited driving"
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Either way, the first step is to find your autocross chapter and show up!
 

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