Contact enhancer. A REAL SNAKE OIL. What is your experience with it ?

[b4dm00n37]

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[TheAttorney]

I've tried the Furutech Nano liquid on a variety of power and interconnect cable connectors. It did seem to incrementally improve SQ.

But my biggest concern with any of these contact enhancers is longevity: Is the SQ improvement the same/better/worse after 6/12/24 months? What happens if you have to re-insert the connector? Clean the connector and reapply, or not worry about it?

From others' comments, the Nano liquid has better longevity than many rivals, but nevertheless does deteriorate over several months. I'm not sure if eventually it will sound worse than an untreated contact (very bad) or it will eventually sound the same as an untreated contact (quite bad).

How can anyone be sure of this longevity issue over, say, two years when your hifi system has probably had a number of other changes in that time? A gradual loss of SQ over a long time is very difficult to detect.

 

[g4ndr1k]

I use DeoxIT Gold to clean the pins on my NOS vacuum tubes. I don’t expect any changes in sound quality — I just like having clean pins; they look better.

 

[b4dm00n37]

I've tried the Furutech Nano liquid on a variety of power and interconnect cable connectors. It did seem to incrementally improve SQ.

But my biggest concern with any of these contact enhancers is longevity: Is the SQ improvement the same/better/worse after 6/12/24 months? What happens if you have to re-insert the connector? Clean the connector and reapply, or not worry about it?

From others' comments, the Nano liquid has better longevity than many rivals, but nevertheless does deteriorate over several months. I'm not sure if eventually it will sound worse than an untreated contact (very bad) or it will eventually sound the same as an untreated contact (quite bad).

How can anyone be sure of this longevity issue over, say, two years when your hifi system has probably had a number of other changes in that time? A gradual loss of SQ over a long time is very difficult to detect.

Yes it's a good question. The time will tell us.


Some seller say that there product is a lifetime application, I think it's mad scientist graphene product. Also cheaper than Furutech.


Edit it's not mad scientist product that saying that it is for the "BSP Graphene Contact Enhancer"...

"Due to the extreme improvement of the conductivity and the resulting lowest resistance of all conductive products, these values achieve an extremely better sound quality in the hi-fi range, which is permanently guaranteed, as the contacts in the nano area are sealed."

 

[OrionDayz]

@b4dm00n37 which product would you recommend for cleaning up oxidised contacts? Looking for something not too expensive. Will apply deoxit gold afterwards.

 

[b4dm00n37]

@b4dm00n37 which product would you recommend for cleaning up oxidised contacts? Looking for something not too expensive. Will apply deoxit gold afterwards.

I'm new at that. So i never used product to de-oxidised contact. But I would go with deoxit gold probably too.

To cleaning contact can use isopropyl alcool 99%

 

[g4ndr1k]

@b4dm00n37 which product would you recommend for cleaning up oxidised contacts? Looking for something not too expensive. Will apply deoxit gold afterwards.

I’ve bought a lot of NOS tubes, and some of them have oxidised pins. Here’s the process I usually follow to clean them:

1. Wipe the pins with isopropyl alcohol to remove surface dirt and oil.

2. If needed, gently use very fine sandpaper (e.g. 1000–2000 grit) to remove oxidation — but only lightly to avoid damaging the pin.

3. Apply a generic contact cleaner to ensure a clean surface.

4. Follow up with DeoxIT D5 to clean and treat the metal.

5. Finish with DeoxIT Gold to protect the pins and enhance conductivity.

 

[OrionDayz]

Here’s the process I usually follow to clean them:

Thanks!

 

[Whazzzup]

Impressive analysis, description, and references. I’m not sure it will motivate me to acquire any lubricants / cleaning goo.
I’d think like restorative facial solutions, that obviously never stopped the introduction of new never ending facial skin solutions, the industry is an industry in itself. The hesitation will come from that self fulfilling prophecy viewed from the outside, it’s just snake oil, …..
but addressing this catagory, that I never realized existed, is beneficial in the world of choice. Good job

 

[Dogmatrix]

The best contact is a clean contact , goop may have some science but it will become contaminated very quickly

 

[caryking]

One of my most admired friend in 2-channel audio swears by the Mad-Scientist product. Personally, I’ve never heard an A/B testing; however, every tweak, he has advised me on, I have done A/B testing and I’m a believer.

Now, I will say: if this stuff is psychoacoustic, then sign me up. No need to ostracize people for their believe. If you don’t hear it, move on…. It’s ok…

 

[2leftears]

Well, of course a contact cleaner/lubricant with some conductive nanoparticle properties is going to work. Especially on slightly tarnished contacts. Duh.

It is the pricing on some of them that is bananas IMO. Cheap contact cleaner/synthetic oil plus a microscopic amount of conductive nanoparticles added should not be an expensive product.

But I suspect that in most of these examples you are looking at what is essentially a long-established electronic workshop service agent with some different nanoparticles and an audiophile marketing & profit margin attached.

I've treat : ALL MECHANICAL CONNECTOR - ALL PINS and WIRES.
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- Speaker voice coil WIRE

I would be very careful with that (how do you even apply it to the voice coil wire??) Maybe the one you tried is fine, but there is no way of telling how the base oils/solvents in any of these product will affect the adhesive fixing the voice coil to the speaker membrane/cone. Also, the last thing you want to do is build a conductive film on the voice coil if you apply it frequently as some of these agents suggest.

 

[bagwell359]

The granddaddy product was Cramolin -10 and -20. I used it, and Deoxit, and still have it, although its been some years since I used them.

However it is hard to avoid the expectation bias thing, and its hard to do a random repeated blind AB - as in impossible.
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When I get my listening room in its final configuration around mid summer, I'll use those products, with no AB, and I'll be agnostic on the results. The value will be that later on if I ever wonder, I can remind myself I used the products when I hook up my Beldens, Blue Jeans, and Custom Cans wires.

Even on an epic SOTA set-up I would expect that sometimes differences would not be heard, every single time? Just does seem to invite questions of bias.

To me both the subjective and objective at their proper places make for the best opportunity for the best sound. Slavish adherence to one or the other do not.