Audio Technica cable question

Dec 6, 2019 at 3:50 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 6

Mhog55

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Audio Technica headphones that use the a2dc connectors -
Is there only one style/size of these a2dc connectors, or are there multiple? I have a headphone that uses this, and I'm interested in a few other AT cans, so I'm hoping they're universal. I'm only referring to headphones, not in ears.
 
Dec 6, 2019 at 11:17 PM Post #2 of 6
Bump. Really hoping to get an answer. It appears that the connectors made for Audio Technica IEMS, are a little smaller than the connectors for full size headphones.
 
Dec 8, 2019 at 3:01 AM Post #3 of 6
Hi @Mhog55,

A2DC connectors are standard, the IEM versions fit the headphone & vice versa with same no problem.

The only thing you have to make sure is if it is aftermarket, make sure the manufacturer lists it as such & in the unlikely event said aftermarket connectors don't fit, make sure the manufacturer has a good return policy.

As a final note, like other headphone & IEM connectors, adapters exist if you want to use A2DC with other head gear & cables.
While I haven't tried them...yet, Linsoul has some reilable adapters by all reports.

Hope you have a great day !
 
Dec 8, 2019 at 4:12 PM Post #4 of 6
Hi @Mhog55,

A2DC connectors are standard, the IEM versions fit the headphone & vice versa with same no problem.

The only thing you have to make sure is if it is aftermarket, make sure the manufacturer lists it as such & in the unlikely event said aftermarket connectors don't fit, make sure the manufacturer has a good return policy.

As a final note, like other headphone & IEM connectors, adapters exist if you want to use A2DC with other head gear & cables.
While I haven't tried them...yet, Linsoul has some reilable adapters by all reports.

Hope you have a great day !
Awesome. I really appreciate the response. I'm still uncertain about size. Maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me, but the iem cables seem to utilize smaller connections. So while technically the same connector, the actual housing size may differ.. So an iem a2dc may not properly fit into a full size headphone. I could see socket depth being a possible issue.
Most of the cables I'm finding are curled on the ends, for around the ear use with in ears. I'm not sure how that would work with an actual headphone. The length of the a2dc connectors also appear to be different.
My problem is that I broke my 100 dollar balanced cable for my Msr7b, and I don't really want to spend another hundred. I took the cable and several 2.5mm trrs plugs to someone local. The prongs on every plug were tiny, and this is a 16 core cable. He's been soldering for a long time, but just couldn't get this to work. I even requested him to replace the 4.4 with a 2.5 on the balanced cable that came with the Msr7b. He tried, but the wires had this silky property to them. I'm probably best off forking out the money for the same cable, but I've found a ton of a2dc cables for significantly less. Unfortunately they are all listed as iem cables.
 
Dec 9, 2019 at 8:21 AM Post #5 of 6
Awesome. I really appreciate the response. I'm still uncertain about size. Maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me, but the iem cables seem to utilize smaller connections. So while technically the same connector, the actual housing size may differ.. So an iem a2dc may not properly fit into a full size headphone. I could see socket depth being a possible issue.
Most of the cables I'm finding are curled on the ends, for around the ear use with in ears. I'm not sure how that would work with an actual headphone. The length of the a2dc connectors also appear to be different.
My problem is that I broke my 100 dollar balanced cable for my Msr7b, and I don't really want to spend another hundred. I took the cable and several 2.5mm trrs plugs to someone local. The prongs on every plug were tiny, and this is a 16 core cable. He's been soldering for a long time, but just couldn't get this to work. I even requested him to replace the 4.4 with a 2.5 on the balanced cable that came with the Msr7b. He tried, but the wires had this silky property to them. I'm probably best off forking out the money for the same cable, but I've found a ton of a2dc cables for significantly less. Unfortunately they are all listed as iem cables.


Hi @Mhog55,

Perhaps I wasn't clear enough, I have AT E70 & MSR 9, BOTH use A2DC connectors, both are the same size, the only real difference, if any, is sonics, as in how they will sound but then your mileage will vary.
So in this case, the housing size is the same, as is the connector otherwise it wouldn't fit.
Therefore an IEM A2DC will work, whether it will sound good to you will depend on you.
The only one who makes connectors which don't actually fit other head gear is Sony as their MMCX supports a slightly deeper recess which is why one can use their cables with other MMCX, not the other way around.

I hesitate how ask how you broke the balanced cable nor am I sure it costs $100 either though that may be MSRP from a brief check.
Saying that, I'm sure there are pro audio places who may have said AT stock cable for far less.
I will also state if you're more than likely going to pay any where close to MSRP for a replacement stock cable, look for a reputable aftermarket cable maker who can do you one instead.
In general, the issue with aftermarket cable makers is unless they have experimented on their own, not many of them, if any, can figure out how the wiring goes on first try unless they have serious experience with a particular brand, eg, former [insert company name] wiring specalist &/or electrical engineer, etc.

Not sure why you where using a 2.5 mm plug in any case as that is a totally different termination to begin with, not to mention I'm pretty sure the local guy you brought it to has no idea how to wire a cable, particularly this cable type.
As even in a multi core cable of any number, all that is really needed is an even number soldered to the left & right prongs in the plug, which may include the ground either as a separate prong or as part of the internal left & right prongs.
I also don't get if the first one didn't work, why the second cable was attempted to be rewired either.
Honestly, you're better off learning how to rewire cables yourself, so much good info exists online, some aftermarket cable makers even provide diagrams for any who are curious how the aftermarket cable maker rewires &/or wires cables.

As a general rule, as far as electrical signals go, the bigger the contact surface area, in this case, the plug, the more signal you will get being conducted or actually going through, if you wanted a 2.5 mm termination, it would have been far simpler & cheaper to just get an adapter though personally, I really don't think much of 2.5 mm as a plug termination.
There is also a high chance they can fail either physically or from the contact points.
For future reference, penon-offical.com has good affordable adapters in various terminations, just save yourself trouble & get them.

Hope this all makes sense.

Hope you have a great day !
 
Dec 9, 2019 at 6:41 PM Post #6 of 6
Broke the angled jack plug while lifting weights. Thanks for your help. This is actually a very nice cable. I have one for every can I own. Worth the price, who knows. Same cable for my 660s cost only 50 bucks. Price perhaps from the a2dc plugs? Alright, I'm off to choose a cable.
 

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