Any thoughts on putting Bybee Quantum Purifiers in my headphones?

[philodox]

I've been reading up on the Bybee Quantum Purifiers and have become intrigued. They seem to be used in various mods offered by Modwright, Parts Connexion, etc.

From a Q&A with Phil Gold [sixmoons.com] and Jack Bybee I read the following.

Q: Where is the ideal place to introduce the Slipstream Purifiers into the signal path?

A: For best results, the general rule is as far downstream as possible. That would make the loudspeaker driver terminals the theoretical optimum location.

Why not put a couple bybees in my AKG K340's right before the drivers? Now I haven't opened my new pair to see how they are wired, but I don't believe they are biwired. I think they are wired so that the cable connectes to the dynamic bass driver and then jumpers from there to the electret. So connecting them directly between the dynamic bass driver and the headphone cable should be as far downstream as you can get.

Thoughts on the technology or this use of it? From reading the descriptions it seems that the 'Small Slipstream Purifier' would be ideal as I am not willing to pay a premium for silver or gold and the standard slipstreams [copper leads] are actually what are recommended for 'smaller midrange drivers and tweeters' on the Bybee website. I checked Parts Connexion and they run $145 USD a pair... and I'd need four of them.

Do you think this could be a worthwhile $290 USD upgrade?

 

[Zanth]

Do a search. Kevin Gilmore once commented how they have the capacity to explode or something.

 

[ericj]

It's a scam.

Here, I'll take just one example of why it's surely a scam:

"Bybee Quantum Purifiers operate on the quantum mechanical level to regulate the flow of electrons that make up the signal (picture a metering light regulating freeway traffic flow)."

This isn't so. Contrary to highschool physics teachers everywhere, your signal is not comprised of electrons.

This site is pretty informative:

http://amasci.com/miscon/eleca.html

If nothing else, the article uses "electron flow" "current flow" and other terms interchangably, which is dumb, confusing, and contradictory.

I further gaurantee you that electrons do not have 'quantum noise energy' to be stripped from them.

 

[steinchen]

sorry, but my BSM just exploded

personally I'd rather consider to spend the money for better headphones / source / ...

 

[n_maher]

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Originally Posted by philodox Do you think this could be a worthwhile $290 USD upgrade?

Only if you sit perfectly still while listening and balance 2 Eichmann Toppers on your head whilest you do so!

Crock of crap, this is...

Nate

 

[philodox]

While I don't discount the possibility that the Bybees are complete snake oil, the fact that many modding companies are using them lends them a smidgeon of credibility.

I took Zanth's advice and have been searching through some previous comments on them and find both of these interesting: LINK1 LINK2

 

[ericj]

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Originally Posted by philodox While I don't discount the possibility that the Bybees are complete snake oil, the fact that many modding companies are using them lends them a smidgeon of credibility.

Depends on your perspective. From where i sit, it's a strike against 'em.

Frankly it sounds like a resistor inside a ferrite-coated ceramic tube.

Tell ya what. I have a friend who's an EE with a resume including Motorola, SWTPc, and Datapoint, who also has a masters in chemistry and currently runs the nuclear magnetic resonance spectography laboratory at a well-funded state college. I'm sure he'd be more than happy to scrape some of that 'mysterious coating' into a sample container and find out precisely what it is.

 

[philodox]

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Originally Posted by ericj This isn't so. Contrary to highschool physics teachers everywhere, your signal is not comprised of electrons.

It may not be technically true, but many resources still teach things this way for simplicity. My tube design book, which has been very helpful, makes this concession [though they do mention it]. Sometimes it is preferable to not have to preface a comment with an explanation of quantum mechanics.

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Originally Posted by ericj Depends on your perspective. From where i sit, it's a strike against 'em.

Yeah, well, that is why I said 'smidgeon'.

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Originally Posted by steinchen sorry, but my BSM just exploded

LOL, yeah but what if it works!!!

 

[marvin]

Actually, in this case, the signal is composed of electrons. Also, in this case, current flow and electron flow are reasonably interchangable. Yes, if we were transmitting current through neon gas, electrolytic fluids, or human bodies, then the signal would not be completely composed of electrons. But since we're using metal wires, the current is composed of electron flow.

And while that article that you linked is mostly correct (the poor definition of conductor/insulator comes to mind as a flaw), it misses the point. From a K-12 point of view, there's no reason to get into "what really happens". All the Newtonian physics you're taught is also wrong. But, they're reasonable approximations given the level of intellectual capability you have at the time.

But, back to the initial post, I bet you could hack up a resonable approximation of the Bybee thing after a few minutes with an RLC meter and a quick trip to DigiKey. The quantum explanation is a bunch of BS.

 

[RnB180]

dp

 

[RnB180]

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Originally Posted by steinchen sorry, but my BSM just exploded personally I'd rather consider to spend the money for better headphones / source / ...

are you serious or being sarcastic?

When they explode what causes them to do so?
is it like a small goop burst or pop, or is is like fire hazard explosion?

Interesting, the DIY connectors are $130 and only require it to be terminated on the amp end. It might be a fun esoteric DIY project, but forget that if it sends my amp and component rack into a fiery ball of flames.

 

[saturnine]

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Originally Posted by RnB180 When they explode what causes them to do so? is it like a small goop burst or pop, or is is like fire hazard explosion?

Too much BS

When my meter explodes, it's like a large propane explosion that also causes my humor meter to go off.

 

[n_maher]

Anyone considering actually using these my want to read this post.

Nate

 

[EdipisReks]

Quote:

Originally Posted by philodox While I don't discount the possibility that the Bybees are complete snake oil, the fact that many modding companies are using them lends them a smidgeon of credibility.

in my mind, it does the exact opposite.

 

[Clutz]

I've got a whole load of these ByBee Quantum Purifiers at home. I bought them a while ago when i was able to get a really great deal on them - figured I'd stock up in case of a nuclear holocaust.

Now because they're bulk order ByBee Quantum Purifiers, they look a bit different than the typical ByBee Quantum Purifiers. In fact they look strikingly similar to 221 Ohm Vishay-Dale resistors with the labels scratched off- and interestingly if you measure the resistance- you'll get close to 221 Ohms. But that's just coincidental.

They're on sale right now; 1/4 of the price that ByBee is selling them for.

Come and get'm!

(Sorry phildox, no offense intended, and I hope none taken.)