Any reason not to buy a nano?

[sno1man]

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Originally Posted by Taphil See here http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/showt...t+battery+life What part of real world battery life doesn't make sense? If I use it for 1.5 hours a day, it llasts about 4 days.

There is definitely some other variables here. I use my 4GB black nano almost exclusively for running and I am getting around 11 hours.

That is runs between 45 and 60 minutes a day, volume about 70%, playing albums which I select before each run. 192K AAC files. I recharge my nano about every two weeks.

That's important since I travel all the time and wanted to leave the charger behind if possible.

 

[Chri5peed]

I have an I5. While I guess it was dear in relation to other players I went for it because everyone said it was great. Plus I wanted a equal backup to my Zen.
Cowon have upgraded the firmware 3 times in the few months I've had mine.

 

[xluben]

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Originally Posted by Taphil What part of real world battery life doesn't make sense? If I use it for 1.5 hours a day, it llasts about 4 days.

I think real world battery life is fine, except it will vary for different people, and you can't compare it to manufacturer specs of another product (duh).

I find that constant play, no eq, moderate volume, no backlight is the best way to test battery life (for comparison with others).

The bitrate of songs also must be noted, because the higher the bitrate the more times it will have to fill the cache per time unit, and therefore more battery drain in a given time period. Most manufacturers wil use 128 kbps files, so if you are using Lossless files higher bitrate files your battery times will obviously be lower.

PS. I normally get battery life times near the Apple specs for my iPods (4G and 5G) when using continuous, standard playback.

 

[zip22]

i was just pointing out that saying it lasts 1.5 hours per day for 4 days leads me to believe those numbers aren't very accurate. is it dead at exactly 1 hour 30 minutes on the 4th day? do you have some schedule of listening to it for exactly 1.5 hours every day? if you do (like a bus ride or something) then thats perfectly fine.

 

[gshan]

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Originally Posted by Taphil Battery life stinks. I get ~7 hours in real world use (1.5 hours/day x 4 days).

That's pretty much what I'm getting. I listen to it maybe 2+ hours a day during my commute, and must recharge every 2-3 days.

 

[zip22]

wouldnt that be 4-6 hours? how do you guys know how close you are to running out?

 

[Chri5peed]

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Originally Posted by zip22 wouldnt that be 4-6 hours? how do you guys know how close you are to running out?

Like most things made today, they have a battery meter.

 

[zip22]

like many ipods, it is pretty inaccurate (which taphil found).

 

[DougGreenberg]

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Originally Posted by slag HOWEVER, the iPod nano support Ogg, GAPLESS playback and CROSSFADING with Rockbox. If I'm correct, it also allows the device to function as a UMB (so it shouldn't be a problem with my operating system.) Am I correct? If the Nano really can function as a UMB (no iTunes necessary) can play Ogg vorbis files, and still look ******* beautiful, I'd be hard pressed not to try it. Gapless and crossfading are HUGE plusses in my book, although I don't like the internal battery. Can you think of any reasons NOT to buy a Nano?

Where do you get Rockbox support for a Nano? I hadn't heard about this.

Otherwise, I think the Nano is a "fun" flash player if you accept its limitations. C'mon, folks, with that tiny sliver of an amp and el cheapo headphone out, the SQ is adequate at best and the bass rolloff is significant, unless you use headphones that are designed to compensate for this (e.g., Super fi EB, Akg K 26P). The EQ function is pretty bad. Yes, you get a line out, but as others have said, you need to buy extra equipment for this to be functional, and by the time you have inserted a pocket dock and an add-on amp, the "tiny, fit-in-your-pocket" concept is kind of lost.

I don't get much battery life from the Nano. Four hours tops. Maybe I'm doing something wrong (I probably fiddle with the menus and use the screen light too much).

The scratching is not a fatal flaw, but it's annoying, and to me it demonstrates that despite Apple's well-cultivated self-image as a "company that cares about its customers" (unlike say, Microsoft), Apple cares more about its bottom line than about its customers, sorry. So you are pretty well forced to buy a case or a skin or something to ameliorate the scratching problem. Another expense.

But hey, I find the iTunes/Nano software-to-hardware system very easy to use, very logical, very intuitive. This is what Apple has always done well, and to their credit, they transferred their strength to the realm of the DAP pretty successfully.

 

[zip22]

http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodPort

4 hours? have you ever really tested it?

 

[Chri5peed]

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Originally Posted by zip22 like many ipods, it is pretty inaccurate (which taphil found).

Another piece of slackness by Apple obviously? I mean, it must be one of the easiest things to implement, you could put it in firmware easy.

 

[Lindinblade]

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Originally Posted by dpippel Technically you're correct, but no line out is still no line out. My point was that very few flash players give you this flexibility. A PocketDock/TurboDockII/Ram Din is only going to set you back $25-$30, even less if you buy used. Not a significant expenditure for most people, especially Head-Fiers, many of whom are more than willing to spend as much on portable headphones as they did on their DAP.

True enough

 

[Taphil]

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Originally Posted by zip22 i was just pointing out that saying it lasts 1.5 hours per day for 4 days leads me to believe those numbers aren't very accurate. is it dead at exactly 1 hour 30 minutes on the 4th day? do you have some schedule of listening to it for exactly 1.5 hours every day? if you do (like a bus ride or something) then thats perfectly fine.

Sorry for the hostility. I've been haggled when I post stuff about battery life.

Yes, 1.5h/day at the gym each day, which is how I figured my estimate. What irritates me is that there's a big difference between my battery life in standardized testing (backlight off, no touching buttons, 50% volume, etc) versus real world use (7h now and when it was brand new, versus 12 hours now or 14 horus when brand new, as stated in that post I linked above). This isn't the case with my 4G color or 5G iPod, which last long in either case.

 

[max-9]

The nano 4gb and cow X5L are my current players.
I use the nano when I need a minimal sized player that is basically shock proof. The sound quaility is okay the battery runtime aint great (a rio carbon 5 gb has over 20 hrs runtime)
I prefer the X5L in every way over the nano , size and flash are its only plus to me...its a backup player to my X5L.

 

[yellafella321]

http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/rev...-2gb-4gb-ipod/

the 1g's screen is significantly different and looks worse than its predecessors. Hopefully this isn't a change to ALL nano's.