A900s vs A1000's

Dec 12, 2004 at 4:20 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 9

Remi M.

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How much better are the ATH- A1000 over the A900's? The price difference is is almost double of the a900's. But are that noticibly better? I'm the type that would rather wait, save a litte more, but buy something I will be happy for a very long time, and not wish that maybe I should have bought something better while I had the chance.
Is going from a A900 set to A1000's just a getting into deminishing returns?

BTW I plan on buying a dedicated amp for one of these headphones. What would be a good choice for under $400 USD?
 
Dec 12, 2004 at 6:56 PM Post #2 of 9
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Originally Posted by Remi M.
Is going from a A900 set to A1000's just a getting into deminishing returns?


Apart from that "limited edition titanium housing only 3000 made worldwide" I can't find any difference between those 2 models. If that's indeed the case then I might say there's no diminishing returns ... only diminishing money. =) Well, there could be audible improvement but imo not worth twice the price. If you're not truly AT collector and only care for their respective sound qualities my suggestion is to go with A900 and use the savings to get an amp or complimentary phones (open design etc).
 
Dec 12, 2004 at 8:15 PM Post #5 of 9
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I've just been told that CD3ks can still compete with even the W2002's.


Not a snowball's chance in hell. The W2002 are far more refined, with far tighter, more extended bass. Nevermind the superior midrange, smooth, extended treble, and build quality.

The W2002 are also sonically superior to the A900 in every conceivable way.
 
Dec 12, 2004 at 8:19 PM Post #6 of 9
I liked my A1000s slightly more than my A900s, but the A1000s have a terrible habit of breaking at the swivel joint. As such, I would strongly suggest against buying the A1000s as your primary pair of headphones.
 
Dec 13, 2004 at 12:06 AM Post #7 of 9
The A1000 is not worth the extra. Not for the cosmetics (too similar to the A900 in all tactile respects), not for the sound. Amping? It's not really necessary with the A900 and extra power won't really affect what the phones can do... although of course different amps have different sonic influences. I would say if you plan to amp in a decent way, upgrade sources, etc anytime soon then you're better off considering another more capable phone. If not, the A900 is a keeper as IMO it's an excellent all-rounder with any budget-level source.


If you want something that improves a lot with good amping and from a precision source and it HAS to be a closed A-T, then the W1000 would be the best place to start. It takes to tubes pretty well, although the low ends are somewhat thin. If the Audiovalve RKV and the like are in your amp future, then the W1000 is not a bad choice (although I think you can make as good or better choices from other manufacturers).


The CD3K's can compete on some levels with the W2002. But it can't hold a candle up to the W2002 for precision of delivery and capturing the nuances of a great performance. However this is with the caveat that your 'back end' must be capable of generating that extra precision and nuance to begin with.


On another related note, if you find that you can tell a 'not worth the difference' minimal difference between a CD3K and an A900 when amped, then it's time to think about a new source/amp. The two are very different in capability, but this will only be exposed if your 'back end' is up to producing the differences in the first place. I think that may be lost on quite a lot of people here.
 
Dec 13, 2004 at 12:37 AM Post #8 of 9
It's seems that everytime I think I am 100% on what headphones I want. Some new information comes in and I have to start all over again. Building my computers and modifing my car has been easier.

It seems that everyone has confirmed my feeling that the A1000 are not worth it. I will not buy them.

I am getting mixed signals as to amping or not the A900's.

Maybe sombody can make this easier for me.

Pretend you have $1000CND ($800USD) to spend
You have a computer as source but can change soundcards
You have a Receiver with a noisy headphone jack (baseline hiss)
You want closed headphones
You will use them to listen to Music 80% of the time and gaming %20 of the time.
You want a sound from your headphones that preferoms well in all categories clarity, base, mid, highs, with out sacrificing any.

What would you buy?
 
Dec 13, 2004 at 12:52 AM Post #9 of 9
I would get an A900 and a reasonable entry-level amp (PIMETA etc) to clean up the sound in comparison to your hissy receiver, and I'd spend the rest on booze, women, whatever
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