Any comparisons to 64A A18?

Nope sorry. Only knows U18, and it was a long time ago. But did not have this double feeling of refinement and intensity with them.

interesting...looking forward to hearing the ve8 and elysium shortly.

very, very impressed with these. they have a seamless musicality and energy not found very often. and i believe detail rivals even the a18. VE are clearly master tuners of multi-driver iems. I love the A18, but would not mind owning these as well. agree with your "double feeling of refinement and intensity," loco. great stuff.

my above comment is for the erlkonig.

Folks, contact me please. WTB but can't get new.