How many hours of burn in do you have on the Zen my friend

Hey @mochill not much as I only have it for about a week before sending it off as loaner 

Oh , that's not good to hear...they are slow grower and definitely benefit from long burn in aka 500hr+. They go toe to toe with my asg1plus and rockets

Yeah Zen grows on you in its own way so I can imagine the longer it is the better it'll be

A typical comment from a fan IEMs, who does not understand and do not appreciate the benefits of earbuds, lol

@golov17 I don't really follow what you meant or what you're trying to say? What were you referring to?

@golov17 The more I read your statement the more insulting I find it. I may not use earbuds all the time like you do but that doesnt mean I don't use any, in fact I have more than half a dozen in my collection which you can check in my sig, so much to your disappointment I do in fact know a thing or two about earbuds and appreciate their benefits.

For example, I like earbuds and do not like IEMs. I can compare my earbuds (more 50) with other earbuds, not with IEMs. As a sports car can be compared with Trucks ?? These are different categories for different tasks, IMHO.

For example, I like earbuds and do not like IEMs. I can compare my earbuds (more 50) with other earbuds, not with IEMs. As a sports car can be compared with Trucks ?? These are different categories for different tasks, IMHO.

I not wanted to offend. This is my point of view.

@golov17 Which part of my review did you see comparisons with IEMs? I don't understand how "A typical comment from a fan IEMs, who does not understand and do not appreciate the benefits of earbuds, lol" did you reach this offensive statement. Your follow-up response that suggested that I was comparing Zen earbuds with IEMs is not helping either. 

@golov17 Did you actually read my review before commenting? Just because you only read the first paragraph of my review that you came to the conclusion that I'm comparing it with IEMs? Well please actually read the review completely before you make such sweeping judgements. I find your accusations unwarranted.

Well, OK. You assess VE ZEN 4 stars for SQ. What are the buds, you feel better, and 5 stars ?? From buds only. Only SQ?