these were the 2nd worst headphones i ever had, the worst ofc is the beats.... 

Well you clearly never tried 50 cent hps^
But yeah they're pretty bad for the price

Finally, a review of a momentum that makes sense. And it's pretty hard to be worse than Beats.

Ouch! I feel sorry for Sennheiser right now lol

The only pair of Sennheisers that I have ever liked were the HD600s.
 
I wonder why people keep recommending these as well as the HD-25s?
 
For a decent pair - I recommend either the German Maestro GMP 8.35 or the Soundmagic HP150.