@Hisoundfi I've been hearing about the new batch of havis (on innerfidelity, the new havis measure slightly better) its less horrendous compared to the old ones. but then i see the graph you posted here and well... measurements don't explain everything but i can't lie, seeing just the frequency response doesn't excite me its very uneven. i wonder how they differ. i wonder hows the quality control on this new batch (after being exposed about the really strong channel imbalances). Did you notice that?