I know these cans get a bad rap in certain areas but that's dependent on the listener and gear they use with it. When burned in and driven properly they are a great set of reference headphones. Emphasis on reference. They are exactly what they are meant to be and deliver great presence. I'm not...

Agreed "szoze". Seriously "PointyFox" Bose? You do know that it's an acronym for Buy Other Sound Equipment.