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    The PENON official thread

    Yea, sometimes the Japanese like to make things sound fancier than they are. There's a chocolate that literally translates to adult's chocolate. Like, how can you claim that these chocolates are for adults :laughing:. I hope to get that many cables in a few years, I'm all spent out due to the...
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    The PENON official thread

    I got the ORB Clear Force Nova 2nd Gen Custom. The stock cable felt like it could be more, the rumble was nice but too forward sounding and it didn't sound spacious enough. The Clear Force Novas had exactly that, it still had that nice bass rumble while increasing the sound stage a bit. But this...
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    The PENON official thread

    I went that way because that's the only way products that don't provide any actual value to a consumer but still have demand survive. It's hard to believe "passion" alone creates demand. What makes products and businesses survive are good business plans and if people willing to value a product...
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    The PENON official thread

    I understand your point but wouldn't that apply for fads and ponzi schemes? In a situation where the product is hyped and doesn't promise what they deliver is when a market dies no? You cant possibly be suggesting a small group of audio cable believers are keeping the market alive. Going to your...
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    The PENON official thread

    I fully agree, it would definitely more helpful to understand the measurements between different cables to make a better judgement rather than just feelings. People may exaggerate how it really affects the sound and it is highly subjective description. I'm now interested upon understanding those...
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    The PENON official thread

    Don't you think that the fact that the cable market is still around and makes money already proves that people do hear differences after all these years? Just because some people don't hear a difference doesn't mean other people don't. Just don't buy it and stop complaining about it, it's as...
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    Tansio Mirai Impressions Thread

    Received the Tansio X last night. Amazing, I'm having a blast with these. @Dsnuts you were absolutely spot on about the G4 pairing. Like others are saying the stock cable is really good too but it doesn't do these things justice. It sounding holographic was not an understatement, man these...
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    Tansio Mirai Impressions Thread

    I completely understand your side on this topic but the point some people are making is that people are paying hundreds of dollars on these. And a more refined opinion is important and helpful for those who could possibly enjoy what other people are hearing! I personally like how serious people...
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    Tansio Mirai Impressions Thread

    I personally think that further proves his point. We don't buy these to listen for a few hours. I think listening to something that and talking about why someone would keep it after experiencing it's flaws for sometime are way more helpful then someone making a conclusion early. Of course early...
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    The PENON official thread

    Im in between when it comes to rock. Some songs it sounds amazing with separation and some songs it does feel too convoluted. However the grunt and the timbre is something I keep coming back to despite it sounding convoluted. I know a lot of people are recommending silver cables for the quattro...
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    The PENON official thread

    I do understand what you're saying. To build upon it, the whole concept of money is how much can make someone believe that this is worth x amount of money. That feelings, our mood and what we believe do affect the perception on what is and what isn't. To summarize are you saying that despite...
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    The PENON official thread

    Ah! So setting it for 50-100 hours straight is okay? At what volume do you put it at? May you please explain brain burn? I think people just talk through experience on what drivers are in the IEM from what I've read. As what emdeevee said, I've also been told if it has dynamic drivers it...
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    The PENON official thread

    To give context I bought the Quattros and I love them, they're a great addition to what I have. It's just that the website says 200 hours of burn in. I for one am a believer... The bass definition and texture is vastly different from out of the box compared to listening to them for 40+ hours. I...
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    The PENON official thread

    Hi everyone, what is your preferred method of burning in? I usually just listen them to see the transformation in sound but I don't have THAT much time. I've read of people burning it in over night but also people recommending not leaving it for x amount of hours. I also don't have a dac. I was...
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    The PENON official thread

    Im thinking of getting the GS849 based on your recommendation to prepare for the TSMR-X. Curious, why is the G4 not recommended. From what i've read the G4 is more versatile and I might lean into that instead.
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    The PENON official thread

    Thank you so much for the detailed reply, appreciate it.
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    The PENON official thread

    How's the timbre on the TSMR X? I don't own any Tansio Mirai products so i'm also wondering how it compares to PENON. I remember when I first joined this forum people have warned me to be careful exploring and trying out more IEMs because it's a slippery slope and here I am slipping trying to...
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    The PENON official thread

    Thanks for your constant impressions guys. It How does the Quattro sound with EDM? That's one of the main reasons it ordered it. Weirdly enough they are taking more than five days to process my order though 🤔.
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    The PENON official thread

    Thanks for all of your impressions guys. As someone that's relatively new into this hobby all impressions are welcome and it's important to state what we really feel. I don't think it's fair to say that companies can't make a bad product when they've consistently made good ones before. It's...
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    The PENON official thread

    Trying to conclude some stuff before pulling the trigger on the Quattro. So compared to the 10th AE, the Quattro bass has extends and slams more, has better timbre and better treble? The soundstage is smaller than the 10th but it's more intimate? After listening to the 10th I can understand what...
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    The PENON official thread

    My space and bass cable just came in, super excited! The cases that come with it are really nice!
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    The PENON official thread

    Thanks for the recommendation but I pulled trigger on it a few months ago. Thoroughly enjoying it right now! Yes, thanks for the fair warning. That's precisely why I want to try more cables. This is my first expensive IEM and I've never played with cables before. I bought one in japan and...
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    The PENON official thread

    Curious, would my Fiio M11 Plus LTD good enough for the 10th? I assumed so but if it's not enough I will do more if needed aha. Also thanks for the recommendation for the tips and cables, I recently bought the Spinfit W1 and i'm loving it. I recently ordered the penon space and penon bass...
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    The PENON official thread

    I appreciate the honest response! Honestly that's exactly what I did, except for buying eartips. I've come to the same conclusion you did since it was a pretty penny however I couldn't help but be curious so I had to ask! Do you recommend any eartips or cables I should buy? I went to japan and...
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    The PENON official thread

    Hey guys I bought the 10th AE a month ago and I'm loving it, it was my first expensive IEM and I'm blown away. Honestly I can't imagine needing another IEM after this but I see lots of reviews and comments on how some would prefer listening to other Penon IEMs than the 10th. I would love to see...
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