NIN routinely has excellent EQ and sound levels for a rock band.

You don't need any kind of engineering degree to see a spectrum chart and go WOW or YIKES beyond understanding things about the peaks, especially in the treble, and how your ears perceive them. So everybody here is an audio engineer now? This thread gets cuter by the day. On July 15, 2009, in...

I do bring them along.

Seriously, have ANY of you attended a Metal concert in your little tiny lives? Bull. I mean REALLY? This is beyond a joke. Rock concerts are routinely in the 120dB range. Led Zeppelin's "Heartbreaker" is said to have reached 130 dB (SPL) observed by a team of participants at the American...

I don't think they honestly go quite that loud I am just estimating but they sure as hell go loud and I have tried many headphones. Anyway, at some point bass will dump these speakers as well. Doesn't mean you cannot bring them to that point to see what they are worth. As long as the amp is...

I listen at those volumes trying to find a suitable EQ for ****ty compressed music. I do it in doses under a minute but thank you. And it's quite obvious too many people here do not attend live concerts. I take breaks at those in case you are wondering. But yeah thanks.

That is because they are not forward they have PEAKS when pushed to max, e.g. 125dB, that are beyond annoying. And if you are pushing those with a bad amp they only get worse when driven hard. No idea who could hate these headphones, unless with fit, much less give out ideas on phones that have...

Always wanted to hear the high-end grado's. Also, I don't really think these are too forward in the treble but I know what you mean if you are used to the Grado's I have heard I guess. I think that sparkle needs a bit of forward treble and live music is always loud and clear in that area. But I...

LOL. I am listening to mine right now. What should we try out tonight from all those torrent feeds? A little Miles Davis or some of these Robert Plant solo albums I have never heard. Hmmmmm....

It does depend on what you listen to. I mean, I cannot say I was WOWed by the DTs because my car setup is over 5K and trounces a lot of midfi home systems. But I have come to love them in many ways because they are the closest a 300 dollar pair has come to my car and of course they are way more...

I don't think the HD 25s compete with the DT1350s in any way possible in audiophile sound. If you are just looking for deep thumpy bass and something to play beats and electronic with then maybe. I have already voiced my concerns here but the DT1350s take power to drive and have tremendous and...

Oh, you mean the objectivity that comes from looking at charts made by a forumite and saying wow these headphones are awful? I have been an exclusive IEM buyer for the past 10 years I know exactly what I am talking about. More like the fanboys cannot stand me talking about their precious...

The IEM market. I have heard that one before. I used to buy any IEM out there under 300 dollars, a couple over that if we are talking MSRP, and have just about used them all though nothing released in the last year for clarity's sake. All of them are not even on the same level as the Moda's imo...

That would be cute. An alias. On the forums. Also, funny how this works two ways and I think that people come here with an axe to grind on these headphones. As Purrin said, my work here gentlemen is purely business. I have a company to watch after.:deadhorse:

"despite the M80 being less clear sounding than the DT1350, because of the strong priority I place on a tamed-down more well behaved treble." Okay, we are way off base here. So you like an awful rubbish treble is what you are saying? Yet who were the people attacking me for EQ'ing the treble in...

Well, that is the first course of action. But better yet we might want to actually know if we are even measuring these headphones correctly?

Seriously, Purrin, you were deliberately against these from the start. Do we need to go back several hundred posts. The fact Devils KNEW these were trash in 15 minutes in laughable. I don't even care anymore. Might as well ban me again as I don't plan on any further discussion unless you have...

Purrin, I am not doubting you. I was going to send you my phones *** but to be honest this forum is not generally to my trust factor so I don't think I will bother. But statements like those of the above are purely ridiculous. FIRST OF ALL: nobody buys 3 hundred dollar phones for a *******...

"Even with a sample size of 3 it's easy to conclude that they are a joke of a studio monitor." Man, you are pretty off base there. I don't know any studio guys who look at graphs and don't even listen to things before going yeah send that back to whatever! LOFL. Get real. These sound better...

Try to buy from a place that will special order them. You may not want to deal with stores with return policies that allow people to take them home and send them back and resell as new. Unless they have some deal or something. Best way to not get one that may be old if it were to be they did...

In reality none of this is going to be professionally verified. It is what we can do as enthusiasts to see if there are problems. IDK but my set doesn't sound that bad and I am happy with them. Simple thing is to try and get the newest pair you possibly can as defects may be caught and corrected...

Well, at this point I am thinking of sending my headphones to you, or in the least before my warranty expires, just to see what you come up with. I am very interested in this. I am prepared for some insane graph to show up so I can laugh about it and then demand they fix them hahaha. I mean I...

Okay, that 3rd one just looks ridiculous I think we can all agree that there is no way we could not hear that. And I am properly convinced I have next to no midrange abnormalities but I cannot be sure on the bass. I know that when one driver is pushed to the breaking point the other can keep...

Well, I know that lol okay but these are supra-aural phones. I am wondering if they are harder to measure properly because everyone seems to have a slightly different fit.

Well man, there are musicians who do this every day of their lives and I think they are fine. Many now use protection but that doesn't save their fans. So you never been to a concert lol? Where 130dB is not unknown and for periods of maybe two hours straight hahahaha. Don't worry man, I know...