Ye im leaning towards that too. If sony release a successor than it will probably be a true upgrade. Still sonys flagship iem for now

So ive had the ier z1r since release. Havent looked at the iem market since ive got em. Is there any iem out there that is a clear upgrade from these 3 years later.

So whats everyone fav tips for Z1r. Is there any tips that helps combat the problematic lower mids. Rocking the standard silicone tips for now

hugo 3 next year probably

cuz hugo 3 will probably be out soon. Old tech is old tech

so looking at the specs I would call this more of a revision than a successor to the mojo. I would expect the performance to be more on hugo 2 level after 7 years from the original mojo.

ive just heard Solaris.. its no contest... the z1r blows it out of the water. Currawong was right. Solaris sounds like BA bass no kidding, acutally heard BA that slam harder.

No just compared same songs mp3 vs flac and the flac always came out more siblent.

my mp3s are all at 320kbs so they arent superlow bitrate.. maybe the mp3 does cut out some info in the upper regestries that makes them abit softer or something compared to flac

ye Im starting to think so too. Its seems like the bad stuff in the recording does come out more on flac and that the mp3 doesnt bring it out as much. Similar to more high res gear tends to bring out the bad stuff in poor recodings than non hifi stuff.

So I have a pretty good mobile listening setup with chord mojo+poly with a few high end iems and I discovered something strange. It seems when I listen to modern music that has been loudness boosted and devoided of dynamic range actually sounds abit better and smoother on 320kbs mp3 than flac...

its about pairing too. If u have a bright treble focused sounding iem or headphone hugo 2 probably wont be a good match with it since it is also on the brighter side. And something like the mojo would be a better match for it with its more warm sound and relaxed treble.

ye well folks can prefer alot of odd tonalities but it doesnt mean its gonna be ranked high if it doesnt sound correct and has alot of information missing uptop. You can make treble extended and smooth if its done right, but to cut it off is another story.

its too rolled off.

U12T is still the best iem in their lineup even if its not a flagship

group think is generally not a good thing.

ye usually iems that are made Could that possible have anything to do with fit and insertion depth of the uni elysium or perhaps different material of the shell. Usually shallow inserts results in more harshness. Have also heard that people found the u12t to sound better than a12t custom.

Problem with foam is that tho it does tame the treble it also kills the extension. Therefore I always look for iem that hit my preference with silicone tips.

The most value for you would be to buy something in 3 years from now that is actually an upgrade from what you have.

Not a TOTL in 2020

ok my bad

Dont think Hero can match Z1R and Mest at that pricepoint.

why would anyone buy something after Judes impressions... obviously he would shill anything for his partners. He is probably the least credible guy getting a honest impression from

I always judge iems based on high end silicone tips like sedna and final e tips. Obviously foam tips are known treble killers but if u need to use foam tips then you know there are issues in the treble to begin with.

Actually found the treble to be the weak link with the khan. Its way overdone , dry and piercing. Im pleased to see that its seem to have been corrected with the sultan.