They are at 21-24$ no matter where I look, I just happened to have 7$ in coupons

 Thanks for the imput! I guess I'm gonna go with them as I prefer ote wear as well as I'm sensitive to treble.   Any idea what kind of tips would fit them? Sth like t400 complys or maybe the kz starline tips? Aaand a good/cheap cable for them?

Anyone ever done an A/B with tennmak pro and **** 4in1? I wanted to get ate-s but missed the 4$ deal, so now they are around $10 with foam tips, and I can get both tennmak(silver cable) and senfers w/ foams at ~$16. Or is there sth more interesting at the 20-25$ range?

Could anyone link/pm me with those starline tips? Cant find any for ATR, only ED9/ED10

anyone got the pt15 yet? Are they worth that 20$ or would be kz zs3 or even something like ATE or urbanfun a better shout for the price tag?

Nah, Im more into balanced sound, maybe with emphasis on mids. So, its still ATE?

So, are KZ ATE still the best shot under 15-20$? I remember those getting a lot of praise some day, is it still the case? Or are they getting outperformed by some new stuff?

So, all in all, could anyone compare the 4in1s, xe800 and the KZ ZST/ZS3? I'm pretty much only interested in sq, fit is not a concern, would be nice if they didn't break after a month.   Any suggestions under the senfers price tag ($30) are welcome too.

Up up!

Bump.

Anyone? Please I need new phones so bad!

Well, I should have specified that. I'm here exactly to find the diffrent signature of sound because etys start to be boring. I'm looking for something more warm/fast/aggresive/dynamic than analytic etc. Does it change a lot ? 

Okay, I'll keep that in mind. Thanks for the input.   Ayway, how do these compare to the others ? or maybe is it just like none of above will give me an upgrade ?

Thanks for the reply. Why not the "s" version ? I heard that its better than the older one . Anyway, how much would I have to spend to actually get an improvement ?

Anyone ?

@Bump

So, is there a possibility that X1 will properly drive havi b3s? Anyone here using them with Fiio?

So, nobody here who could help me?

Hi!   First I'd like to say "Hello" to all head-fi'ers and thank you for all the effort you put into this forum. It's really nice to have such a place where you can find pretty much whatever you'd like to know about all that audio stuff   I've been looking for my new earphones for about a...